Why Leaking Paid Mods Is Idiotic.

In all honesty, if you have the files for something when it wasn't paid, and choose to release it via a forum or 3rd-party webpage, don't be stupid about it. I have DFA stuff from wayyyyyy before the Patreon switch, and it's way out of date, but I wouldn't put it out there even with that. But it's only a matter of time before someone leaks the latest one on a site somewhere, and then it's too late. That's just how it goes. :/

 

quit being poor and spend the $1.50 on a mod or don't buy it at all. easy as that.

 

My opinion： that if some paid mods have demo versions and you cannot afford the original paid mods, you can consider the paid mods for these demo versions in advance
But of course，leaking paid mods is really.......[This makes me think about s°°tland]

 

i personally dont like paying for a mod but leaking them is just stupid

 

The counterpoint good sir is that one would have to be poor if they could justify paying $1.50 on every paid add-on for a $20 title.
Who and their sane mind would pay over 1/20th of the price of this title for inferior content? This is objectively poor value, and no smart well-off person would come to such a spending decision.

Often it is the poor, uneducated, and elderly falling for such scams; not individuals known for their wealth.

 

Quick post: If you wanna get paid mods for the first time, start with these creators: https://www.beamng.com/members/lucasbe.101002/
https://www.beamng.com/members/vmfunphysics.459093/

 

No, but see that's where you're wrong. It's not just a dollar and fifty cents. It's usually $9.99 a month until the end of time if you want continuous updates. As someone who very much isn't poor, I would not want to spend $9.99 a month for ONE MOD in a game that I paid $19.99 for in 2015. It's just not worth it. And the reality is, many of us already have other things we're paying for. We've got car insurance, health insurance, rent, taxes, other subscriptions, I mean for the average person I'm sure it's hard to justify spending $10 a month, for one mod, for continuous updates when realistically $10 for a mod at all is unrealistic unless it is a very high fidelity mod that surpasses the base game cars in quality. As, I don't know if you realized, but the base game cars are free. I personally could spend $10 on a mod. I wouldn't care about spending $10 on a mod. But I, personally, and many people I know, are not going to spend $10 on a single mod, per month, when we've all got tons of mods on BeamNG. That adds up really quickly. I've got 200 mods. If I paid $10 a month per mod that would be $2,000 A MONTH. That's literally HALF THE PRICE OF MY HONDA ACCORD. And I don't even play BeamNG that often. So your argument is just completely incorrect as you've dramatically deflated the price of a mod when you know their prices are set to far beyond $1.50 and, they're not one time payments as you describe. If it really was that cheap, literally nobody would be complaining, but it isn't so we are complaining.
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I mean, if this were flight simulator or a game where modding was truly difficult and took hundreds of hours of time with multiple people, sure, make your mods whatever price you want. That's fair. I just paid $50 for a high-fidelity 737 mod in MSFS 2020. That's a reasonable price for a true-to-life aircraft that's 1:1 with all functions and a flight model that simulates the actual aircraft. But in this game, where historically mods were free, it doesn't make sense to charge people $10 a month, continuously, for one mod. Maybe if it were a pack of several mods that'd be reasonable, but it isn't, so it's not reasonable. I don't really care if paid mods exist, I won't buy them, but in my mind, people making mods for this game need to stop gouging people like that just for one mod. Furthermore most of the time I can't tell if I'm actually going to get the mod promised or if my money is just going to be taken from me and I'll get nothing in return. I know I'm not going to buy any mods until BeamNG actually includes a button to buy them with purchase protection. And, one more thing, I've seen some paid mods that are illegal. As in, they're intellectual property violations. If some of these mod makers will break that law and make money off of another company's IP, who's to say they won't steal tons of money from me and give me nothing in return?

 

The only time I would consider leaking paid mods is if they were Kenemation or Royal Renderings (aka CrownConcepts aka SpoolinDiesel) $20 meshslaps

 

you live in georgia

 

Based but the thing is tons of them are leaked daily. I mean, there's a whole subreddit dedicated to leaking paid mods. Tons of people are doing it. And I hope you didn't actually buy those mesh slaps cuz they've been on a few sites for a while now.

 

Luckily I have never bought any of their mods and I never will

 

Note that 90% of the quality mods made by respected members of the community are a one-time payment of <$5 USD (If you're paying that much the person who's selling the mod is ripping you off)

Your argument that mods shouldn't be worth much compared to the game's price because BeamNG as a game has so much exposure it's not even funny, the game can afford to be sold for $25 USD while still making a profit and paying a team of fairly significant size reasonable pay. Small modders like LucasBE and LJ74 and the others don't have that same exposure or customer base and so must sell their mods for more to justify the hundreds and/or thousands of hours of work they put into a quality mod.

They DO take hundreds and/or thousands of hours to create (a quality mod that goes seriously in depth), sometimes with multiple people. These are the mods being sold for <$5 USD.

You don't need to worry about this if you buy from people who you can trust. If you're not buying from trustworthy people then that's your problem.

 

I know we're discussing opinions here and all, but after reading all this, I must ask: where are BeamNG mods on your hierarchy of needs? Because this whole essay makes it seem as if they were somewhere between food and personal security.

I agree, if you're paying $2,000 for mods a month, you indeed need help. The thing is, I don't think there even are 200 paid mods that are not your typical Kenemation crap, so if you're not going for everything people put online, you probably won't spend that money. Hell, I got myself quite a few, and I still haven't spent more than $20 on them.

Spoiler: Obligatory

Stop telling people what they should and what they shouldn't do with their money.

If I tracked the time I've spent on my skin pack, it'd already go into tens, if not over a hundred hours already. If I asked just $2 for every hour (which is more or less Bulgarian minimum hourly wage, the lowest in the EU according to Wikipedia), I'd like to have those $100-$200 back. And my hourly wage is much higher than that. So yeah, $2-$5 for a complete car is far from too much.

 

Precisely this good sir, no individual should be justifying meaningless transactions such as paid add-ons of paltry value relative to the title itself.

 

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Um..? What? I have never met a single person making paid mods in my entire life. Okay, for one thing, I have not purchased any mods on BeamNG. I am never going to, ever. And how do you expect me to know if someone is trustworthy if I've never met them before? How am I supposed to know if a random dude on BeamNG asking me to go to a random third-party site that I've never heard of is trustworthy? You can't. That's the thing. There's no purchase protection, there's no money-back guarantee, there's nothing like that. You have no idea if someone will just take your money and run.
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Thank you, Mr. Winrar, for your very wise words. I could be making 7 figures a year and I still wouldn't let myself get so low as to spend 1/20th of the games value on a single mod. Let alone spending $120 a year/$10 a month just for one mod. It's ridiculous.

 

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Yeah and in all honesty this is my real opinion it's almost dumb to pay half to almost or over 2/3 of the price you bought the actual game for.

 

HONESTLY! And people diss on me for having that opinion when it's so black and white. If you, as a mod maker, are so down bad that you need to price your mods that terribly, perhaps instead of making mods you should be getting an actual job.

 

Pray, permit me to disregard the peculiarities of thy discourse, for I find myself truly pondering whether this demeanor thou dost exhibit is but a theatrical performance or, perchance, an accurate reflection of thy daily comportment. May I simply relish the artful manner in which thou hast rephrased my utterances to align them with thine own line of reasoning? One might venture to opine that such a practice lacks the luster of nobility, wouldst thou not concur?

I hate paying each of the Wilkinson brothers $10 a month for the Centauri. And that Nekkit's Japanese limo? I think I'll wait for Christmas and buy a yearly subscription at a discount. Oh my, the repo has been empty recently. /s just in case.

I'll allow myself to skip the first part because apparently I didn't read your previous comment close enough (and neither did you with mine), but I'm quite sure that you did stumble across at least some paid mod creators throughout your stay here, and you must have noticed that those people tend to be rather reliable when it comes to both the mods and the ways of buying them. I mean, sure I could bribe some forum members to say that they bought a mod from me with no issues even though the store page looks fake from afar, but to keep it up for more than a week would be rather difficult – people will notice. And if you're buying from a total random on some shady site, you're the only to blame if you get scammed.

Moral of the story? Use your brain when shopping online.
Craigslist doesn't have any buyer protection either, yet nobody has taken it down yet because someone sometime sold a bag of potatoes as a used Nintendo Switch.

 

I love how all paid mod discussions always lead back to “uM yOu ShoULd gO GEt a joB”
“Im nOt GoINg TO paY FoR YOuR MonTHs or YeArs Of woRK”

Seriously though, there are lots of good, high quality, one time purchase mods. Just stay away from $20 kene ‘slaps and you should be fine

also, don’t forget to use common sense

 

but it is tho
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also i hate how people act like ALL paid mods are those stupid 20+ a month things
Just use common sense
90% of the time those are worse quality than the cheap 1-2 dollar ones