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Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by Donken, Aug 6, 2012.
The tram tracks on WCUSA (West Coast USA) make me want a tram in the game
1997-2005 Jargl Silver Spear ( Front is a 1997 Jaguar XJR, Side is a 2002 Mercedes S500, Rear is a 2005 Bentley Arrange, and interior is out of a 2005 Rolls Royce )
It's a... Prominent Staple for all Luxury Sedans from the late 90's to mid 00's
( This is a long one )
Silver Spear XL57:
5.7L V8, Automatic transmission, Leather interior, Lamb wool Floor carpets, Air suspension, Fold down trays, Rear radio controls, Small Fridge, Pop up head unit, Airbags, and a chrome package.
Silver Spear XLS59:
5.9L Supercharged V12, Automatic transmission with adjustable gearing for Sport and Comfort modes, Leather interior, Real Oak Wood trim, Lamb wool Floor carpets, Double pane windows, Adjustable Air suspension for Sport and Comfort modes, Fold down trays, Rear radio controls, Small Fridge, Pop up head unit, Airbags, more noisy exhaust, and a Sport chrome package.
Silver Spear XLS60:
6.0L Supercharged V12, Automatic transmission with adjustable gearing for Sport and Comfort modes, Leather interior, Real Oak wood trim, Lamb wool Floor carpets, Adjustable Air suspension for Sport and Comfort modes, Fold down trays, Rear radio controls, Small Fridge, Pop up head unit, Airbags, Triple Pane Windows, Sound cushioning foam sprayed in hollow spaces surrounding the cabin, Ultra Quiet mufflers, and a Luxury chrome package.
And what does make it a Jargl?
No one ever specified if it was a non luxury car brand or not. unless you have proof showing otherwise.
jargl is a swedish brand (VOLVO/SAAB)
Ah yes, the Love Fist limo from VC.
I was waiting for someone to get the reference!
Alright, now some sort of an East Coast USA car pack (too tired to add the pictures now):
Gavril Estacade (1996-2005) - a 90s/00s American compact sedan. Mostly based on the 3rd gen Chevrolet Cavalier, but with some 3rd gen Ford Escort and 1st/2nd gen Dodge Neon cues. Unibody, front transverse engine FWD, front MacPherson, rear torsion bar suspension. 2.2 115 HP/2.0 125 HP/2.5 135 HP/2.4 148 HP I4 engine, 5-spd manual/3-spd/4-spd automatic. Has custom, beater, pizza delivery, dirt racing and derby version.
Gavril KV4 (2000-2007) - a 00s American high-midsize sedan. Based on the 7th gen Chevrolet Impala, but with 4th gen Ford Taurus fascias. Unibody, front transverse engine FWD, front and rear MacPherson suspension. 3.3 165 HP/3.0 175 HP/3.8 205 HP NA/245 HP supercharged V6 engine, 4-spd automatic. Has beater, donk, dirt racing and derby configs.
Hirochi Paramount/Pampa (2003-2009) - an 00s Japanese high-midsize wagon. Mainly based on the 4th gen Subaru Legacy/3rd gen Outback, with a 6th gen Nissan Maxima front end and some Toyota Avalon interior cues. Unibody, front transverse engine FWD/AWD, front MacPherson, rear multilink suspension. 2.4 200 HP I4/3.2 260 HP V6 engine (overseas models also have 2.0 170 HP/285 HP I4 gasoline and a 175 HP 2.2 I4/210 HP 3.0 V6 turbodiesel), 6-spd manual/5-spd/CVT automatic. Has beater, police and custom configs.
Hirochi T50 (2006-2016) - a 00s/10s Japanese midsize double cab truck, facelifted in 2011. Mainly based on the 4th gen Mitsubishi Triton/L200, but with a 2nd gen Nissan Navara/Frontier front and interior. Ladder frame, front longitudinal engine RWD/4WD, front double-wishbone, rear leaf spring suspension. 2.4 200 HP I4/3.2 260/280 HP V6 gasoline/2.5 155 HP/170 HP I4/3.0 210 HP turbodiesel. Has beater, sport, off-road and Pig configs.
Gavril D15 (2009-2017) - a 10s American fullsize double cab truck. Facelifted in 2013. Mainly based on the 2nd and 3rd gen Chevrolet Silverado, but with a 12th/13th gen Ford F-150 front and some other cues. 3.6 267/280 HP V6/2.8 320 HP/3.6 365 HP turbo V6/5.0 365 HP/380 HP/5.5 425 HP/445 HP V8 engine, 6-spd/8-spd automatic. Has sheriff, fire department, militarycustom, offroad, and Marauder configs.
Hirochi Elbert (2016-) - a 10s Japanese midsize crossover. Based on the 2nd gen Mazda CX-9, but with a Nissan Murano front and some 3rd gen Toyota Highlander interior styling. Unibody, front transverse engine FWD/AWD, front MacPherson, rear multilink suspension. 3.2 280 HP V6/2.0 225 HP turbo I4 + 60 HP electric engine hybrid, CVT transmission. Has a taxi version.
Bolger Brigadier SL (2017-) - a 10s American long-wheelbase fullsize SUV. Based on a mix of the 4th gen Cadillac Escalade ESV and Lincoln Navigator L. Ladder frame, front longitudinal engine FWD/4WD, front double-wishbone, rear multilink suspension. 3.6 380 HP/445 HP turbo V6, 8-speed automatic. Has custom and armored configs.
2020 Honda E (Hirochi EK-660)
1989 - 1997 Charmand CH2 - Renault Clio I, Citroen AX, Peugeot 205
Late 1980s/1990s French FWD, front engined, B-segment 3/5 door hatchback/cabrio. Based on Renault Clio I, with Citroen AX front, Peugeot 205 rear, interior, with Clio's steering wheel. First facelift was in 1993, and it had transparent lights, slightly revised bumpers, grille and interior, and also engine lineup and new tailights, similar to Clio's. Second facelift was in 1995, and it brought rounded headlights, bumpers, new trim, airbags, revised tailights, etc. Available as RHD and LHD model.
Spoiler: Trim and versions:
Trim from 1989 to 1995:
CN/CND - basic model, with 13'' steel wheels, black bumpers, grey interior, manual windows, mirrors, single reverse light, black mirrors and handles, etc.
CM/CMD - CN + 14'' steel wheels with dogdish hubcaps, side trim, double reverse light, black and grey interior, hydraulic power steering, radio, central locking, foglights, etc.
CE/CED*/CCE** - CM + 14'' steel wheels with large diameter hubcaps, front power windows, black interior, body colored bumpers, aircon, etc.
CL/CLD*/CCL** - CE + 15'' alloy wheels, body colored mirrors, handles, power mirrors, board computer, beige interior, chromed exhaust pipe, rear spoiler, etc.
CX/CCX** - sports model, with 16'' alloy wheels, twin exhaust pipe, sports spoiler, sunroof, lower suspension, grey trim, foglights, sports seats, etc.
CX-R/CCX-R** - CX + 16'' alloy wheels, wide body kit, aditional gauges, etc.
Trim from 1995 to 1997:
Classic - based on CM, only with large diameter hubcaps.
Avant - same as CE.
Executif - same as CL, only with driver's airbag.
CR - same as CX-R.
Beater - based on CN, with faded body, aftermarket 15'' worn alloy wheels, worn interior, broken engine, rusty body.
Police - based on CM, with French livery, small blue beacon, and stronger engine.
Custom - based on CX, with aftermarket 17'' wheels, metallic paint, aftermarket steering wheel, tuned engine, leather seats, etc.
Rally - based on CX, with rally suspension, rally livery, mudflaps, additional foglights, roll cage, etc.
Race - based on CX, with lowered suspension, tuned engine, roll cage, racing livery, etc.
Van - based on CM/Classic, but with protective bars between passenger and cargo compartment, dog dish hubcaps etc.
* - versions with diesel engine.
** - convertible versions, not available with basic trims.
Spoiler: Technical data
1.0 Petrol I4 Carbureted 54 HP (1989 - 1994)
1.0i Petrol I4 Electronic Injected 56 HP (1994 - 1997)
1.3i Petrol I4 66 HP (1991 - 1997)
1.4i Petrol I4 75 HP (1989 - 1998)
1.6i Petrol I4 80 HP and 115 HP (1990 - 1998, 115 HP version from 1994)
1.7i Petrol I4 95 HP and 120 HP (for CX) (1992 - 1998)
1.8i Petrol I4 145 HP (for CX-R) (1989 - 1998(
1.4d Diesel I4 55 HP (1989 - 1996)
1.6d Diesel I4 65 HP (1990 - 1997)
1.8d Diesel I4 82 HP (1991 - 1998)
3/5 door unibody hatchback/cabrio.
Front: McPherson's with coilovers.
Rear: Trailing arm with with coilovers.
Front discs, rear drums (sports models have all 4 ventilated discs.)
-Why should it be added?
-We don't have any European B-segment cars from that period, also it would be great Ibishu Covet alternative, and it would suit excellent for Italy.
1. IMHO the Peugeot 106 would be a better inspiration than the 205.
2. In this day and age, a Clio Mk2/206-like car would be better than the disappearing Clio Mk1/205/106.
1. Peugeot 106 is somewhat newer than 205, and I wanted to mix 3 French B-segment cars of the time. Also, production of all 3 cars I mixed run unitl second half of 90s.
2. The thing that 206/Clio II is better option, it is, but that's totally irrelevant and I didn't want to make something like that. Clio II/206 are just another bland supermini, with nothing special about it. 205 and Clio I have their sports version, GTI and Williams, which are today appreciated classics/youngtimers.
1999 Subaru Sambar (1999 Ibishu Pigeon)
Functional radio below:
= 3-speed automatic (3AT)
= 5-speed manual (5MT)
= 658cc i3 engine
= 720 kg - 820 kg (depending on the config below)
= Base (RWD, 658cc 50 hp, 5MT, 3AT)
= Turbo (RWD, Turbo 658cc 60 hp, 5MT, 3AT)
= Cargo box (RWD, 658cc 55 hp, 5MT, 3AT)
= Dump (RWD, 658cc 55 hp, 5MT)
= Offroad (4WD, 658cc 60 hp, 5MT, 3AT)
= Racer (RWD, turbo 658cc 63 hp, 5MT)
= Tanker (RWD, 658cc 55 hp, 5MT)
206 S16? GT? RC?
Clio Sport? Cup? V6?
I had older cars in mind.
Those are now becoming classics, and will be in a few years.
The 206 variants much less so. They paled in comparison to the 205 GTI and failed to make the same impression to the enthusiasts' base.
They'll probably get some following as classics but I seriously doubt they'll ever reach the cult status of the 205.
I know it's not much suggestion and I guess it's more like a European thing but the Covet could use a 1.4-1.6 diesel that produces 50-55 HP as NA and 75-80 HP when turbocharged. Also first gen Pessima could have the turbocharged one as only option.
I know there's a mod for Pessima but it wouldn't hurt having more variety.
I'm not really expecting it, just really suggesting for a GLIMPSE of something like this, a 2 door 1932 Ford Sedan, with a 2 Barrel and optional Super/Turbochargers. Obviously a Road version and such, but I'm a Hot Rod freak, and i've yet to see anything like this really, so I was wondering if I could even get a slight view of something similar, thats really not an automation car, since they dont crash well..
Time for a WCA car pack idea. Also, do you want me to continue adding those satirical descriptions?
Ibishu Covet (2006-2012):
"In Middle America, living without a roommate, having a compact car and eating from boxes is available to anyone who isn't a serious addict. However, in Belasco it makes you middle class. Well, at least it's an old apartment, a 10-year-old Covet and diet food, instead of a trailer, an old Estacade and fried waste meat."
A 2000s Japanese compact sedan. Mostly based on the 8th gen Honda Civic, but with a lot of 10th gen Toyota Corolla (mostly rear) and 6th gen Nissan Sentra (interior) inspiration. Unibody, front transverse engine FWD, front MacPherson, rear torsion beam suspension. 1.8 136 HP/2.0 158 HP I4/1.4 106 HP gasoline + 32 HP electric mild hybrid powertrain, 5-spd/6-spd manual/5-spd automatic. Has beater, custom and Ryde (Uber-based) versions.
Ibishu Avrio (2009-2016):
"This is not a car. This is a statement. Either that you're an eco-friendly progressive leftist, or a Ryde driver with cursory knowledge of cars. It's your choice."
A 2010s Japanese compact hybrid liftback. Mostly based on the 3rd gen Toyota Prius, but with a lot of 2nd gen Honda Insight cues and a 9th gen Honda Civic interior. Unibody, front transverse engine FWD, front MacPherson, rear torsion beam suspension. 1.8 123 HP gasoline + 41 HP electric mild hybrid/1.5 103 HP gasoline + 55 HP plug-in hybrid powertrain, CVT automatic. Has custom, security, taxi and Ryde variants.
Ibishu Avrio (2016-):
"This is an enthusiast car. Really, it is. You know that's true when you see that the changes most people disliked actually made the customer base hyper, like in a true enthusiast car."
A 2010s Japanese compact hybrid liftback. Mostly based on the the 4th gen Toyota Prius, but with a lot of Hyundai Ioniq cues. Unibody, front transverse engine FWD, front MacPherson, rear torsion beam suspension. 1.5 110 HP gasoline + 47 HP electric mild hybrid/1.5 110 HP gasoline + 63 HP plug-in hybrid powertrain, CVT automatic. Has custom, security, taxi and Ryde variants.
Edison Model IV (2016-):
"Some time ago, only the rich tech bros could show how much they cared about the enviroment (and their public personality). Now even the middle-class ones can, at least once they get their car delivered to them and repaired."
A 2010s American compact executive electric sedan. Based on a mix of the Tesla Model 3 and Fisker Atlantic. Unibody, engines on axles, front MacPherson, rear multilink suspension. 300 HP single-motor RWD/375 HP/470 HP dual-motor AWD powertrain, direct drive. Has custom and Ryde variants.
Edison Model III (2014-):
"This car has no competitors. Sure, maybe there is more luxurious stuff coming from Europe, and the Euro makers are building electric cars, but when it comes to showing off your alpha post-fossil-fuel male cultured American personality on Picsnap, no other model can do. Plus, it drives itself on the highway."
A 2010s American fullsize electric crossover. Based on a mix of the Tesla Model X and Fisker Karma Surf. Unibody, engines on axles, front double-wishbone, rear multilink suspension. 325 HP/405 HP/440 HP/460 HP RWD single-motor/465 HP/505 HP/550 HP/600 HP/645 HP/695 HP AWD dual-motor powertrain, direct drive. Has a custom variant.
Gavril B5 (2012-):
"Belasco has many things borrowed from Europe: trams, an overcrowded real estate market, fixation on new cultural fads, and now compact vans. This Gavril may not be a hit in car-centric suburbs, but it is all the rage in places with untouchable designs meant for pedestrians and carriages."
2010s American compact van. Mainly based on the 2nd gen Ford Transit Connect, but with a Ram Promaster City-like rear. Unibody, front transverse engine FWD, front MacPherson, rear coil spring solid axle suspension. 2.0 155 HP/1.5 turbo 165 HP/2.4 180 HP gasoline/2.0 175 HP turbodiesel I4, 6-spd manual/6-spd/8-spd automatic. Has livery, police, taxi and Ryde versions.
Gavril Barstow (1980-1993):
"Put a somewhat powerful engine and a stiff suspension in a car built to the lowest bidder's quality, and you get FMI's sporty offerings. While it may not have been a recipe for competing with the Euros, it made the Barstow a hit among those who want dirt cheap speed. Let's hope they complete the project, instead of listing it unfinished for $300."
a 1980s American pony car. Based on a mix of the 3rd gen Ford Mustang's front half and 3rd gen Chevrolet Camaro's rear half. Unibody, front longitudinal engine RWD, front MacPherson, rear coil spring solid axle. 2.5 115 HP/120 HP I4/3.3 130 HP/137 HP/3.8 150 HP/160 HP V6/4.9 175 HP/185 HP/5.8 220 HP/235 HP V8, 4-spd/5-spd manual/3-spd/4-spd automatic. Has beater, dirt racing (2 stages), drag (3 stages), drift and asphalt track (2 stages) configs.
Superbuilt Buggy (2014-):
"Back in the 70s, making a buggy required only a Piccolina drivetrain and a friend who could weld and occasionally wasn't stoned. Not any more. Now, with tech bro money flowing in, it's all about computer-designed frames, high-end components and big V8s. Will make a huge show, on the road or on the roadside."
A modern custom-built American buggy. Based on various Californian designs. Spaceframe, longitudinal rear-mid engined 4WD, coil spring solid axles. 5.0 365 HP/5.5 430 HP/560 HP/710 HP V8/7.7 850 HP V10 engine, 6-spd manual.
Gavril Standard (1953-1960):
"This is a car that was so cheap and slow that not even the intellectuals of Belasco wanted one. Still, some were bought by the hillside buzzards who ran them on a shoestring, at least until the hot rodders showed up and bought them. They all wanted to build the next Acid Queen, but most ended up with teenage wasteland."
A 1950s British tudor saloon. Mostly based on the 1st gen Ford Popular, but with some 1st gen Opel Kadett rear and interior inspiration. Ladder frame, front longitudinal engine RWD, front transverse, rear longitudinal leaf spring suspension. 1.2 29 HP I4, 3-spd manual. Has beater, hot rod (4 stages) and drag (3 stages) variants.