Update Speculation thread

For reference, removing everything from a Wigeon (minus body) with 36hp, CVT, and a neutral drop gives a 0-60 of 7.5s

 

Tbh, I don't know much about Side-by-Sides (didn't even know they're called like that, I've only been knowing them as ATVs), but I'm really excited to see this kind of car in BeamNG. "V8 everything" can certainly apply to this vehicle too, with the most obvious choices being the Gavril V8s due to their relatively small overall dimensions, their simplicity and their broad use (remember, the Dark Owl Civetta Scintilla uses the Gavril 5.5 and the SP Rockbasher uses the 4.5, along with the venerable 6.9), although I can't ever turn a Bolide V8 swap down, Twin-Turbo or not!
Realistically, though, such a vehicle can mainly get by with a small-displacement engine so, regarding to European and Asian BeamNG car companies, we're spoilt for choice here. Any small engine can be taken into consideration, from the 550cc Ibishu I3 to the modern small turbocharged engines of today.
As for the American BeamNG car companies, we only have the Bruckell 2.2/2.5 I4s and they aren't exactly powerhouses of engines. I mean, from the same time period, the Ibishu 1.3 DOHC I4 of the PWigeon and the 1.5 DOHC I4 of the Covet have both these Bruckell engines in the dust from the get-go while being smaller and, of course, lighter. But if the engine this car is gonna have is a) modern, b) small, c) turbocharged and d) American, I think we may see that new engine be used somewhere else too. Say, for the base version of a modern Pony Car (you see where I'm going).

 

2024 Bruckell Moonhawk with a 1.2 turbo I3 producing 98 hp

Jokes aside, a name that i (who knows nothing about SXS) see popping out often is Polaris, looking at the RZR lineup they use a 1.0 2-cyl engine both N/A or turbo in various power levels, with the top version using instead a 2.0 4-cyl engine. I can totally see the devs reusing Ibishu engines (or maybe the Wydra engine) but i definitely wouldn't mind seeing a base 2-cyl version

 

wouldn't that just be another bastion? or a mustang or somthing

 

Well, the Moonhawk was a coupé, the Bastion is a sedan, i know brands lately like to reuse older names for new, larger cars that barely resemble the originals, but it doesn't have to be like that in the BeamNG universe

 

so the bastion is a charger and the moon-hawk would be a challenger, got it

 

And FWD! Imagine that! Hahahaha!

A 2-cylinder is a great layout but it also means a new and special sound has to be made for it. Ibishu, Cherrier and ETK 2.0 I4s are perfect for some fast versions of the ATV but don't discard the legendary Cherrier 2.5 I5!

Yep, it's the Mustang I was referring to! The dev who designed the Barstow said it's about the same size as the '71 Mustang, so a modern Barstow with neoretro lines, a base Turbo I4 and a Quad-Cam V8 (plus an Inline-6 in between, just for making the difference and having a modern I6 to be larger than 3 liters) would be ace!

 

Barra Mustang? Hell yeah, that would be sick

 

Exactly! Barra Barstow!

 

I do not believe the 0-60 time. It either has way more hp or you suck at counting.

Anyways, side-by-side, amirite?

 

0-60 km/h not mph. 60 km/h is about 45 mph

 

if bruckell were to bring back the moonhawk it would be as a small crossover possibly electric

 

Well if we want to speculate what happened to the Moonhawk (For whatever reason this came up...) we should probably look at the real life counterparts...

Keep in mind that the Moonhawk really should have more body styles. It isn't necessarily only a coupe.

Ford:

• Ford's entries in this lineup were the Torino and Mercury Montego. After this generation the Torino name was dropped without return, and the Montego name was dropped but returned in 2005-2007 for a melty volume sedan, then dropped without return.
  
• While the Torino name died with this generation and the Montego name basically did as well, the platform was actually kept around for a few more years. Ford wanted to streamline their lineup and this platform got another few years of life as the LTD II, Ranchero, and Thunderbird. Of course 2 of those names were dropped after this short additional generation and again never resurrected.
  
• Effectively the only nameplates that used this platform and survived after this generation were the 2 personal luxury coupes: The Thunderbird and Mercury Cougar. Both of those cars continued to have a pretty standard run for personal luxury coupes which isn't relevant to discussing the Bruckell.

Chrysler:

• Pretty much all the B-Body cars either had their nameplates pulled after this generation or eventually ended up somehow related to the modern L platform family. Both the Charger and Monaco had some time in the 1980's/1990's respectively as volume FWD cars, but the Charger also ended up on the modern L family and the Monaco name was entirely pulled after that.

GM:

• The fate of the GM counterparts is kind of all over the place, but the important thing for this conversation is that only the Chevy Malibu and Buick Regal survived past 2007. Both of those cars lie on the GM Epsilon platform, which is basically just for generic FF midsized sedans.

So overall we have 3 options:

1. The Moonhawk name was pulled after this generation or a short final generation after this
2. The Moonhawk lived on in some form as a midsized car and slowly melted into a generic volume vehicle over the course of the next 30 years. May or may not be around still but if it is it's not doing great market wise.
   
3. The Moonhawk was resurrected for what we know as the Basion

Of course it could actually go any way since the Moonhawk is a fictional car, but if we're trying to speculate what "realistically" would have happened to the name we should look at what actually happened in real life to the equivalent cars. Option 3 is out since the Bastion is named "Bastion" and really doesn't take any cues from the Moonhawk (perhaps the Moonhawk remaster will change this?). So that leaves the Moonhawk as either being discontinued and forgotten about, or morphing into a melty volume car over the next several generations and then being forgotten about anyway. Which seems a bit of a shame...

 

I weighs nothing i can literally pick it up.
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this is the exact make and model.

 

Well a go kartish
Off roader thing
and/or race track toy sounds very fun to me
more so if there is a road version.

as much as i would prefer some remasters.

Anyway do you think we will get a teaser today? or not?

 

Would definitely be cool. I think we will see a remaster today as we didn’t have one the 2 past weeks and there surely is enough content to show something or even only a closer look on the side by side or the trailer

 

teeezer plz

 

weezer

 

Speaking of the UTV, I wonder if they will give us any crazy engine swaps to go in it, like this:



But instead it would be a 3.0L I6 ETK swap to keep it lore-friendly

 

Ford/10
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Turbo charged of course