Update Speculation thread

speaking of the career mode how long do you all reckon we have left in development until then

 

since when were diesels unpopular in the late 90s and early 00s
markets outside of the states exist, y'know...

 

*most american pickups and buses, and trucks are diesel*
*forum user* : deezols not popular in us.

 

Tbh, I don't understand these jokes. I don't even know whether they're jokes or not. Moreover, making references to games like Minecraft or Fortnite isn't exactly the best thing to do in BeamNG. We all know the kind of client who plays these games: stupid 10yos. And I don't think we want them to migrate here altogether.
The 'Widowmaker' name is amazing, though!
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He probably means that Cummins, Powerstroke and Duramax make for a fraction of total truck sales.

 

Diesels are extremely popular in the US with, as the reason for their existence implies, economy-focused drivers. The VW emissions scandal, as well as restrictions such as DPF and DEF do make them a lot more expensive, as well as scaring off the average person, but a savvy consumer is a savvy consumer, and diesels have always had their niche in the US and North American market. Folks wouldn't Cummins-swap old land yachts if they didn't have any merit. (that's a joke example but my point still stands)

While a stock diesel Bastion might not make much sense using the current real-world restrictions, it makes a lot of sense for a Euro-spec version (like the real-world Lancia Thema), as others have pointed out. But, it also makes sense for a lower-trim North American version, in a world where automakers don't need to meet strict emissions regulations that specifically target diesel engines.

It would also serve as a competitor to other diesels like the Cherrier (but then we get into the discussion of whether or not the Vivace/Tograc would be sold in the States and Canada, considering Mexico gets all the wacky French cars and we get nothing)

Personally, the more powerplants the better. Give us an Ecoboost analogue, a hybrid muscle car, a tuneable diesel that goes from sensible putter to 30+psi screamer, hell, even a full EV for me to never use.

I don't know where you're getting that idea from. Hybrids still vastly outsell pure EVs by a wide margin. Toyota, Kia, Ford, and GM are all hybridizing their lineup, with Stellantis, Honda, Audi/VW, BMW, and Jaguar/Land Rover all offering hybrids on a range of models. That kinda covers the majority of automakers you see on the road.

https://www.caa.ca/sustainability/electric-vehicles/electric-vehicles-available-in-canada/

The general public is a lot more accepting of a car that still takes fuel, especially since their range rivals that of diesel-powered passenger vehicles, compared to EVs, which just don't have the range yet. EVs are in the perfect spot for the urban commuter right now, unfortunately, that isn't a one-size-fits-all solution right now.

 

But the front splitter feels way too aggressive to be a factory road version, that's why I think it's a track config

 

I am so hyped for the group B(olide), reminds me of wbimp's rally bolide.

 

Speaking of the bolide, any content predictions?

 

Yes, I don't predict there's any more content than we've seen, in fact they probably just started working on it again

 

It doesn't make sense to have three V8s with different displacement, so they definitely should replace the 3.2 V8 with a V6, which would also make sense lore-wise since Ferrari did have the Dino V6

 

it makes perfect sense

just bored out versions of same motor

LS engine is in 5.3, 6.2, and 6.6 displacements in current silverado

 

I think they will probably add turbocharging at least to low-end models. (with small V8)

 

Yeah in fact the D-Series has different displacement engines. But the Bolide isn't a pickup truck, honestly it doesn't even make sense for it to have an introductory model, just have the standard 350, the 390 GTR special edition and the race version (and i guess the rally version) but if the devs really want another config for diversity, they should diversify properly instead of taking away power and nothing else
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I hadn't considered the turbos... but at that point it would be more realistic to have them on the high-end models, like the Bolide Corse mod

 

I was thinking about something like the Ferrari 308 & 208 which both had turbo versions, the 208 being a 2 liter version of the same engine because of Italian tax laws at the time.

Both the Ferrari 308 & 208 had turbos at the time so I don't see why a little turbo V8 couldn't be.

 

I am curious about the possibility of a platform cousin to the Bolide.
the fact that it's such a major remaster, and it's been done in tandem with all the work on the van, midsize, and bastion, it's probably unlikely that they've made anything,
but going off the very stretched assumption that they have made something, what could it be?

one thing I think of is a 12-cylinder flagship "proto-hyper" car, like a Testarossa or Countach. a generally lower, longer, much wilder body, and with a larger engine bay to accommodate a V12, but overall most of the mechanical and interior components could be the same.
Alternatively, they could just jam a V12 into the bolide as-is, which I don't think would be too much of a stretch.

alternatively, if they were to convert the bolide to a transverse engine layout, like most real-life counterparts had, it would free up enough space for a 2+2 model, like a Ferrari Mondial or Lamborghini Uracco.
This one I think is unlikely though, since they would still have to retain a separate longitudinal layout engine for the very likely 288/F40 style versions, which would wreak havoc upon the part selector and the whole QA process.

on the more disparate end, what if they were to put the engine up-front, and make a GT car?
there were quite a few large FR Italian GTs at the time, like the Ferrari 412, Lamborghini Jarama, DeTomato Longchamp, Maserati Kyalami, and Iso Rivolta Fidia.
Driving-dynamics wise, a sophisticated RWD near-""fullsize"" vehicle would have driving dynamics different to everything in the game so far, so it would be a welcome addition,
however, such a car likely would only reuse basic interior and mechanical components, so I don't see this being particularly likely.

another wild possibility is something like an LM002. this wouldn't bring much in the way of driving dynamics or configuration variance compared to a D-series or hopper, so I don't see this being particularly likely at all.

 

Yeah it's not like it has poverty spec wheels and lower weight...

Seriously, the 3 series had 2.8, 3.0, and 3.2 versions of same engine, corvette had 6.0, 6.2, and 7.0. I like the 320, its a nice no-nonsense sportscar. The bolide covers a lot of ground from higher end sports car to flagship performing supercar, much like the 911.

 

He probably means that Cummins, Powerstroke and Duramax make for a fraction of total truc

You've covered me 100% on the supercar front so, with the exception of a Flat-12 in my wish list, I'm not gonna say anything else.

As for the LM002, a Civetta off-road beast would be amazing!
Which reminds me of a car Gavril should have: a huge off-road beast with a diesel V8, width equal to the T-Series and no overhangs!

Also, the Autobello Civettalina truly deserves a place in the official content!

 

For the Bastion, I'm guessing that it could have an HUD dash, I know it was the case on the recent Corvettes I think? Also no other cars have it in BeamNG, so it would make sense for a modern car.

 

HUD would also make sense for 80s and 90s BeamNG cars because there were some American and Japanese cars that had it back then IRL.