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Update Speculation thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. Agent_Y

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    We already have remasters of 2 cars and another brand new car, as well as a fridge. Why do you also need mp on top of this??? It's already a huge update without it
     
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  2. Koichiro Iketani

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    They already said multiple times they won't add it, it would be too much work
     
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  3. Zero

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    that's a very loose argument.
     
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  4. WhatNot98

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    There wouldn't be much point developing their own MP system for BeamNG, especially when there is BeamMP mod, which basically does the dev's work for them on that feature.
     
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  5. Jack The Ripper 2

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    MP won't be a thing for a while, the devs currently work with high otimization to make the game playable on most systems, but a MP system would make it really heavy for the lower end pc's, maybe for this update we could take a look at the AMD FSR, which would possibly make the game even more stable on lower end PC's, bu tmy curisity is still at what is going to be the new game feature, I know tire thermals are off the table, but what else is likely to come?
     
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  6. Brother_Dave

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    To be dependant on modders to supply MP does not sound like a thing game developers would prefer.
     
  7. n0ckboi

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    I agree with the MP. It is definitely not a priority and I would expect it after 1.0. You definitely need first:

    - Optimised game
    - Finished all main features of the game (physics, etc...)
    - Something to do like career, events (races, drag, roleplay, chases etc..)

    I also think that the idea of the original MP made by beamNG team wouldn't mean just open servers, but actually importing events like various races in lobbies (similarly to wreckfest).

    I doubt thermals are also a priority currently. There are no endurance races in beamNG. Most of you probably drive the one vehicle for a minute on average before crashing. Also, thermals would be useful if there is also tire wear.
    The only reason I see thermals in the game right now is drag racing.
     
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  8. Jack The Ripper 2

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    Yeah, I kinda feel like that, I usually do some endurance races, usually with something like the SBR4 on SPA (it can surprisingly take la rouge flat out), i like to see how much the fuel lasts and if I can manage the brake temps, and I know for know the tires in BeamNG are unrealistically Grippy, because of the lack of thermal and wear and because of their design, they are always in the optimal window and I'm sure people would complain if they were adjusted to be more real, but it is kind of the purpose of Beam. The sport tires are already grippier than they should be, but the Race tires are like WAY too grippy.

    But as I said, it is highly unlikely to come soon, maybe they will polish more the tire model before starting the work on thermals and wear, so as it is already off the table, it leaves me wondering what other feature it is still lacking that they would add.

    The engine simulation is quite good as it is, I don't see them reworking them for now, the vehicle sound have been reworked at least twice recently, we have better oil simulation now, PBR for better looks, the tire models have been reworked a bit recently, even the dimensions of almost all the car has been changed to be more realistic, I can put my finger on what is around the corner, what they would implement, I don't know enough about aero to know if Beam is realistic enough on this matter.
     
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  9. Sparks4

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    They took the traffic mod, hired the author, and had that mod added into the game after being re-worked. The same can be done with Beam-MP. The mod devs start working for beam, and the mod gets added into the game; worked to the standard of the game as did the traffic mod.

    I can definitely see it doubling the player count, and raising the sales of the game massively.

    It wouldn't hinder the development of the base game, since I would bet there would be a separate MP development/QA branch for such things. BeamMP devs would focus primarily on one thing, being MP unless they need them elsewhere. I see no reason to not do this when half the work has already been done, it would only provide benefits - to both parties, well three if you consider us - the consumers who have been wanting something like this officially for years.
     
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  10. Keon_

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    True, whether it's intentional or not!
     
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  11. Jack The Ripper 2

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    I haven't been waiting for Multiplayer, it is a heavy game as it is, it would be a lot of work even if it already "half baked", and as I said, the devs prioritize the compatibility, it may come, but not soon, the cars take some time to load, making the crashes seen identical to both parties requires a LOT of fine tuning, especially considering latency and these kinds of things, the game is not ready for multiplayer yet, not even Beam MP itself is good as it is and it would raise the bar of the game minimum requirements by a significant margin.

    The traffic guy was hired because the AI in the game was really basic before him, all they coul do was chase or flee basically, and he did an extremely exceptional job to rework a feature that was already in the game.
     
  12. CaptainZoll

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    I think the main reason they're holding off on implementing Multiplayer officially is the struggle that comes with officially operating and moderating it.
    when 2 or 3 forum members are just fiddling around as a mod, not making any money off it, there's no necessary expectation of quality or stability, but when it's considered part of the game's price, they would be expected to run servers for it and properly moderate the whole thing, which requires time and money to upkeep.
     
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  13. gtaman788

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    I really don't want multiplayer. I mean I want it because I know others will like it.


    But am worried they will make it Multiplayer only.
     
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  14. fivedollarlamp

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    Not a chance in the world IMHO
     
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  15. Acrain7

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    Why would they choose to make it multiplayer only? Even if they did -which they won't- you would just make your own private server. But that's not going to happen.
     
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  16. surprisinguser1

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    Guys, multiplayer is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. BeamMP already exists if you want it. Also, the BeamNG devs basically said that it is too much work, so they won't make an official multiplayer mode for the foreseeable future. Let's move on, please.
     
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  17. I<3ChickenWings&V8

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    Lets hope they will put the new car together with both remasters which isn“t anywhere near confirmed to this point that everything we saw will get in the next bigger update together.
     
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  18. P_enta

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    They have to make the game run well on AMD systems normally first before even touching FSR.
     
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  19. Jack The Ripper 2

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    Yeah, so probably not on this update then, as they only realized this instability like, last week, so what other feature may come?
     
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  20. Leroux83

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    Probably more skins, and configurations... or even bodies !

    I mean, some cars need new bodies ; for the older, they can wait their remaster (devs could wait for the ETK I-series to make a wagon body for example), but for the more recent ones, like the Vivace (also an example), they won't remaster a quite brand new car : it's only 1.5 yo and DOESN'T need any remaster, just some features added, like a wwagon body for example

    That's the same for motorisations : there's a possiblility for the new car to have some kind of hybrid powertrain, and if it's possible to have a vanilla hybrid system to the game, other cars would use it (I think again about the Vivace). And the last car to be remastered, (Pigeon) could also have an electric motor :p

    Then for maps, a remaster is always possible for cliffs/Germany, probably some new places added to WCUSA, maybe a brand new map (who knows ?) (but that last point would make the update more massive than it already seems to be)

    We can also hope for new scenarios, or remasters of the existing ones

    And don't forget hypothetical AI or UI improvement (but I'm not really into this stuff so I won't open my mouth here in order not to say something wrong :rolleyes:)


    Note : When I read my text, some stuff I wrote could sound like ideas. THESE AREN'T IDEAS, just some stuff that COULD be added to the game for the next update :D
     
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