Update Speculation thread

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  1. ManfredE3

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    i6's in American cars were pretty rare by this time. It's not uncommon for American manufactures to offer engines of this sort in different engine configs though. Chrysler Powertech came in V6 and V8 config, Ford Modular comes in V8 and V10, etc... The i6 at this point isn't strictly unrealistic, but a V6 would be a better choice. All 3 of the big three had V6 engines as the base US spec config by this point.

    Personally I'd love to see a diesel I block for the platform. Having only a single diesel in a commercial platform like this is odd and an i block would add a lot more variety than a second V block diesel. If we include Brazilian versions all of the big 3's pickups came with an i6 diesel option. Much of the roster needs more diesel engine options.
     
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  2. Blue Bird Gaming

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    Not just export engines but actual export versions of the USDM Gavril vehicles would be an awesome niche to fill.
     
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  3. McBeamer94

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    Hmmmm... Hadn't really thought of an Inline-6 diesel option tbh. After all, the "Cummins engines pack" mod has shown us what the Heavy Duty versions of the D-Series and H-Series are capable of, especially with some tuning in the internals. It's gonna be a great option for those who want a Heavier Duty option than the V8 turbodiesel and also for those who don't want the complexity of the V8 turbodiesel.
    But, just for engine option diversity, I think the base gas Inline-6 should be kept, since it's a cheap and simple option for bulk buyers. Yes, I agree, the V6 may be a tad more realistic in the said time period but not everything has to be that much realistic in the game! :p
    On the other hand, though, seeing how strong and capable could the said Inline-6 diesel end up being, some "buyers" may think the base gas Inline-6 is the poor relative (but again, it all comes down to what someone wants, so the gas Inline-6 is still perfectly good for the base versions just like the more powerful engines are perfectly good for Heavy Duty or performance versions)!
     
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  4. CaptainZoll

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    no one's saying get rid of the 4.1 I6, we're just saying add a V6 to replace it in the post facelift trims.
    as i've said before, with the van likely also getting more heavy duty content, i wouldn't be surprised if the post facelift D35 and H35/45 get some ~8.0 V10, designed off the magnum and triton V10s.
    as far as extending the variety for older versions, a super rough and robust I6 diesel, like a cummins 12v 5.9 would be quite interesting, especially with some n/a and supercharged versions.

    speaking of diesel engines, i find it weird that the hopper still doesn't have any.
    (sure, the jeep inspirations didn't, but the japanese equivalents like land cruisers and vitaras all did.)
     
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  5. Szymon2007

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    my guess for the lack of diesels in the hopper is it was designed to be a cheap, robust car for rural Japan and diesel engines are much more expensive to maintain and build than petrol ones
     
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  6. Agent_Y

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    But still it's really weird to me that there is not even a custom Diesel swap
     
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  7. CaptainZoll

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    but as i said, the land cruiser, vitara, patrol, pajero, etc. were all designed as a "cheap, robust car for rural Japan",
    and they all came with diesel engines.
    in fact, the hopper could feasibly explore the "gutless n/a diesel 4 cylinder" role reasonably well with something like a toyota L series or mitsubishi 4d55.
    I would, as I said before, explain the lack of a diesel by the hopper's very heavy yj/tj wrangler inspiration (and probably gabe's lack of knowledge in non-usdm cars.)
     
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  8. McBeamer94

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    Oh, you're talking about the post facelift versions? Mea culpa! That's OK, I agree about the newer versions having a V6! Besides, I'm somewhat curious to find out what the V6 will turn out to be! ;)
    I'd also like to see a large V10 for HD use, since the game also lacks V10s.
    About the Hopper, it has a lot of potential in the diesel turf. It could have a torquey but underpowered Inline-4 diesel (displacing 2 liters for example) for agricultural purposes and it could also have an overall more capable Inline-6 diesel, this time displacing 3-liters (always hypothetically)! There was also the Defender that had a torquey but underpowered Inline-4 diesel, so this should tie the game with the reality!

    Two last details!
    First, I'd like to see the 6.9/423 Gavril V8 in the Hopper, as a very weird option for equally weird tastes! :D
    And second, if the Barstow and Moonhawk ever get modern generations, I'd like to see the Gavril Inline-6 make a comeback (I find it a fantastic engine, hehe ;)) opposing the long time-favorite V6s of the Bruckell/Soliad companies! ;)
     
  9. Zero

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    I think it's a bit funny to compare Hopper to a Land cruiser, patrol etc lol.
    It's a tiny car in comparison.

    Considering it's an Ibishu, it must have some Suzuki Jimny/Samurai roots.



    They did also come with diesels though :)
     
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  10. JCX034

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    Yeah, we need non-turbo diesel I4 for the Japanese cars.
     
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  11. urbanestdog45

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    I feel like it'll be a 3.5-3.7L twin turbocharged v6 engine or naturally aspirated engine. it's supposed to be very boring. it may be something like a pentastar or a similar engine.
     
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  12. Szymon2007

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    doubt an ecoboost in the early to mid 00s
     
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  13. ktheminecraftfan

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    Definitely a V6 in the later D,H and Roamer vehicles would make sense. if they do create a new Gavril V6 it would be useful for either a minivan ( Astro sized) or a compact pickup truck (Ranger,S10 etc) both would make sense as they share components.
     
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  14. CaptainZoll

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    I think if they were to make an astro-van, it'd likely just be a larger version built off the H-series.
    alternatively, as I once suggested before, a modern full-size muscle car?
    I'd imagine if this is the case they'd go for a coupe rather than a sedan, as a sedan would eat into the GM's territory on the earlier, more primitive side, and into the etk 800's if it was more modern and complex.
    if they were to add newer DOHC variants of the gavril V8s, they could feasibly be used in the van facelift, and this new car, maybe even the very last of the grand marshals.
     
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  15. Blue Bird Gaming

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    The Astro is smaller than the H-series not larger.
    Astro on the left and Express (similar real vehicle to H-series) on right


    Astro


    Chevy Express ( H-series equivalent)

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    I guess a Gavril minivan could be like the Astro in the sense of using a downsized H-series body with a different front end and interior, or it could have its own purpose built body that just looks similar to the H-series, but smaller (but is technically not the same; this is the case on the real life Astro).
     

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  16. ktheminecraftfan

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    The Astro was based off of the Chevrolet S10 if my memory serves me correctly and was powered by four and six cylinder engines.
     
  17. The Gas Station

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    A very very long time ago I remember a blogpost that discussed both Vulcan and the possibility of PBR , but we heard nothing since then. So unless there has been something new which I'm unaware of (which is pretty likely considering I don't follow that closely on the game anymore due to being very busy in real life) I see absolutely no reason to believe either Vulcan or PBR are coming, mainly because of the amount of work it would take to implement them. (Vulcan would be really awesome though!)
    As for the career mode... well, it's actually pretty reasonable to assume that it's coming sometime in the future, with buying and selling cars.
     
  18. BIGTASTY97

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    It was based on the f and x body due to its bolt on subframe and shares front suspension parts from b body wagons.
     
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  19. Subarishi_Motors

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    I has speculation, etk800 will get a remaster in one of the future updates. if you look in its files it has a .dae for v10 parts
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    ok, its in the etk folder within the common file or smthin
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    also nvm not for a v10 for a v12
     
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  20. IDontKnow

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    I think that has been there for years, the K series has v10 and v12 badges, which are cool, but I don't think they would be added to either ETK because they're supposed to have 50/50 weight distribution, a V12 or V10 would probably be too heavy. V8? Possible.
     
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