Update Speculation thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. ManfredE3

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    With part 2 of the H-Series remaster coming uptm I'm not so sure I agree with that statement. We know H-Series content is in the near future pipeline and are discussing the possibilities.
     
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  2. Blue Bird Gaming

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    Yeah although when they update vehicles they normally focus on factory stock configs. Of course if a passenger body is added it will likely get tuned, drift, off road and or derby configs, and maybe a shuttle, school van or possibly even a conversion/camper van config. Being that as far as I know the devs have never added any official armored vehicle or armored config of a vehicle, I don’t think it’s likely that they will now, at least not immediately.
     
  3. ManfredE3

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    Not really. We have seen plenty of non-factory content in game, both originally and during the remasters. Without aftermarket configs the D/H-45 would have no reason to exist; the entire point of cabsters like that is for aftermarket commercial uplifts. Which is exactly what the most basic CIT trucks are. Personally I'd like to see something visually more interesting than an armored box, but at the end of the day all of these CIT trucks are just big and heavy commercial uplifts/bodies on a HD truck frame of some description. We've seen plenty of commercial vehicles and police trucks and even one military truck, and have one scenario involving a bank robbery, so it's not like a CIT truck really is going into new territory here. If we were discussing a full on APC I would agree with you (though the ram-plow T-Series is getting kinda close to a kill-dozer-esque home made AFV so even that envelope got pushed years ago), but a cash-in-transit truck is a fairly standard and common commercial application for IRL counterparts of both the H and D-Series. There's always going to be a first for whatever new vehicle type and it's only natural for the discussion to come up with the H-Series remaster on the horizon since so many IRL CIT trucks are based on Sprinter and Econoline vans.
     
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  4. Blue Bird Gaming

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    I originally thought you meant just the regular van body, but with armor. I guess if they would make it an upfit for the H45 cabster then maybe a cutaway cab shuttle/ school bus may also be planned, since they would both be additional upfits for the H45 frame.
     
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  5. ManfredE3

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    I've never worked with CIT trucks, but to my knowledge there's 3.5 options (2 of which also apply to the D-Series) which I discussed here. The simplest is just a thick steel box uplift. Extremely easy, applicable to the D45 and H45 and any future similar vehicles, but also really boring. Just a big box on the back of the cabster, it really is difficult to get more boring than that. There's also adding armored doors & windows plus appropriate interior modifications to the H35 body and potentially dropping it onto the DRW H45 frame (hence the "3.5" options). IMO still a bit boring depending on the particulars (sometimes these are visually nearly stock) but still not too difficult. a DRW van body with armored windshield and a push bar would certainly be a unique sight. The most interesting but also most involved is to replace everything from the firewall back with an armored box. Visually unique, interesting, and cool, but also much more involved than the other options. This option likewise applies to both the D35 and H35.

    As for the bus... I'm sure we will be seeing a fair number of uplifts, since it's a big thing for commercial trucks and would require very little work to put onto the D45 after the asset is made. Considering how often a minibus is requested and the fact that it would double the number of vehicles we could use for bus routes, I'd be surprised to not see one. It would also be a great demo derby class as mini-buses are often used for those since they are cheap and plentiful.
     
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  6. Blue Bird Gaming

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    With the bus and armored box possible, that also makes me think of an aftermarket work truck body for H and D-series, like this:

    or this:

    or even something like this badass custom bus:

    The first two could give Beamcom more types of vehicles than just the regular H-series and the last would be an awesome new type of vehicle in the game.
    The possibilities are endless.
     
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  7. Occam's Razer

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    Cargo box and 15+ passenger van aside, a news van might also be a reasonable investment. Viable scenario/roleplay vehicle, plus the folding dish or telescoping antenna has some low-clearance crash potential. The broadcast equipment might be a lot to model (especially if it needs to be accurate), but it's probably pretty doable.
     
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  8. ktheminecraftfan

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    I imagine a lot of the equipment can be done using creative texturing and modeling work. No need to model every piece of equipment.
     
  9. Agent_Y

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    On the topic of the H-Series, isn't it weird that we have 3 different off-road versions of it, while in real life you would never see a single extreme off-road van like that? And also, am I the only one who thinks the drift H-Series is the weirdest vanilla config in the entire game? Just look at it:
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    My point is that the devs were likely running out of ideas for the configs to make in the remaster so they just added a third offroad version and this... thing. I hope it gets some actually reasonable configs in the next phase of remaster.
     
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  10. CaptainZoll

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    considering the film stunt driver career path will likely developed further, one other van configuration they could possibly make is a MIC rig, as was used in the early fast an furious films for moving interior shots.
     
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  11. Jakux

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    I didn't know that! Interesting


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    Shouldn't the left door also have a handle? Since vehicle triggers work only on one, but two are opening?
     
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  12. SKB

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    I don't think so, the door that has the handle has to be opened first and then the second door has to be opened, as the door handle is inside
     
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  13. ktheminecraftfan

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    ahem
     
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  14. JorgePinto

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    What currently bugs me the most about the H-Series is the total lack of rear badging, among other details.

    Last post is great proof, in real life badging would go off if necessary in order to paint it and/or apply a company livery, but out of the factory, it's weird seeing a van without any badging at all, it's just a small detail, but it really adds that bit of realism to the whole car, in the D-Series it was definitely a distinctive touch when it was added (let's remember the D-Series never had any rear badging for the first years) so I think that will come for the next update, they might do it since it's not a major task, but improves the realism/looks of the car with minimum effort. (And all cars would finally have rear badging as well)
     
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  15. ManfredE3

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    Personally I'd replace them with an overland/van life config. It's a big thing nowadays.
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  16. DaddelZeit

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    Talking about the h-series, there's no such thing as a base duty version. Currently the most basic you can go is the H15, and that one's description states that it's a medium duty variant.
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  17. Blue Bird Gaming

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    I think medium duty because it’s a full size cargo van. Maybe the base version of a passenger van would be considered “light duty”, but I think the term “light duty” mostly applies to minivans and small pickup trucks.
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    Also maybe a 3.5 V6 version of the H-series could be considered “light duty” as well.
     
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  18. DaddelZeit

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    The I6 is a thing as well ;)
     
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  19. Blue Bird Gaming

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    The V6 could probably replace the I6 as the base engine in a 2002-present iteration, along with an ‘02 facelift (possibly based off the front of the facelift d-series or Roamer) and maybe a lightly refreshed interior (new steering wheel, gauge cluster, maybe new seats, while the dash and door panels would stay the same or only get minor changes.) This could followed by another, more contemporary facelift and all new interior coming out around the 2008-2012 range and being offered up to the present day. The Ford and GM vans were both updated around these times, so I think it would make sense for the devs to parallel this with the H-series. Of course all of this stuff most likely won’t be released in one update, but in several subsequent updates. Let me also not forget to mention that the V6 engine I talked about would probably also be available in the D-series and Roamer after 2002, since a lot of full size pickup truck and SUV manufacturers in real life ditched their I6s in favor of the V6s as base engines during the 90s and 2000s. Although I think this is less likely, The grand marshal might even get the V6 engine as its base powerplant as well.
     
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  20. McBeamer94

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    I don't really agree about the Gavril Inline-6 being replaced by a V6 since the opposition duo of Bruckell/Soliad already has V6 power plants. The Inline-6 engine has become a Gavril trademark, so it's good having diversity in that respect! ;)
    It's also good for (semi)commercial vehicles like the D-Series, the H-Series and the T-Series (and the base versions of the rest of the Gavril vehicles) to have an Inline-6, because the Inline block is an inherently simpler construction than a V block, offering easier shade-tree maintenance and, therefore, keeping the making costs/price tags and servicing costs down! :D

    edit: The Burnside Special could also have a base Inline-6 version. Not only that, but it could also have an Inline-6-powered Nascar version, paying homage to a certain revolutionary race car of its time! :cool:
     
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