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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.
a quick mock-up of what a normal pre-facelift legran might actually look like:
it looks more like a moonhawk bumper
Irrelevant to the recent findings (although happy to see an American wagon in-game), but has anyone heard anything dealing with the development of air suspension and air brakes? I was playing around with the Wentward and it seemed that the air pressure on the brakes doesn't fluctuate. Has anything changed or is in development?
dont forget that since the headlights are separate now it's likely to have different looking lights
I actually doubt that; if you look closely at the whole fascia in the original image, the headlight buckets look to be the same shape, suggesting the headlights will be the same from pre to post facelift.
the more basic design of this front end also leads me to believe it's a pre-facelift, when you compare it to the existing fascia, which looks quite curvy for the 80's.
and if any configs were to get a different set of headlights, it would be the original, now "post facelift" model to get a set of composite headlights on its higher-end trims, as US laws opened up to composite headlights in 1984.
The whole car seems WAY too curvy for 1984
The LeGran will probably get from one of the least configurable cars in the game to one of the most configurable ones, for now we only have different engine and suspension options as well as some extras like landau top and a weird spoiler thing, and in the update we are getting a whole new body style, a new drivetrain, at least a different fascia with probably a whole pre-facelift, and also these crazy derby versions with many parts including at least 2 types of bumpers, plus finally some proper skins! I wonder if we're getting anything else apart from this, like maybe a race version? And I also wonder if we're getting a dirt racer like a lot of the other cars have or are the 2 derby versions enough?
i really hope so. it seems like wasted potential currently
I honestly hope they do the same with the midsize, it doesn't even have an intake other than the stock one.
this is kind of a 1985 D series all over again.
the Chevy Celebrity and Olds Cutlass, and the Aries/Reliant, short of having slightly sharper edges on the taillights, are very close in styling to the LeGran, and they were released in '82 and '81 respectively.
Another thing to note is that the very rear bodywork is separated into a "tailcone" in the mesh (and always has been), suggesting they might add a different set of taillights as well, perhaps even with a different trunk lid.
I'm not sure if we see this update all "derby-able" cars with new modifications, because that would make a lot of work to do imo as there are about 75% cars with these configs.
But I think we can say that Soliad gets similiar configs and that makes new 3-4 derby configs (depends if soliad has also wagon version).
Btw Moonhawk bumper (maybe other parts too?), new legran parts and body, and of course soliad makes nice fusion for custom customization. Im rly looking for this update
So the wagon is basically confirmed for the incoming update as are proper derby mods. Hopefully that means a relocated fuel cell. And a refreshed version of the LeGran probably means a full remaster.
What are the odds that the Wendover is released in this update?
There will be no Wendover wagon. It's based off of the H and E body GMs, which were coupes and sedans only and the devs said it will just be a Coupe (which leaves no provisions for a wagon). Also, there was never a fullsize wagon that was transverse FWD (the GM A bodies and Taurus/Sable were midsizers)
In due time the Moonhawk needs more configs, including a middle engine option (small V8 under 310ci). Although coupes were popular in the 1970s, it's unusual that there is no sedan or wagon. You could even have a Ute.
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Well, the Cutlass Ciera/Century was sold through the 1996 MY.
GM intended for the W body (Grand Prix/Regal/Lumina) to compete with the Taurus and replace the aging A-bodies (themselves lengthened versions of the 1980 X-cars). But the W body program was crazy expensive and GM foolishly released them in 1988 as coupes only, no sedans..... in a market where coupes were dying and sedans were popular as ever. The A body development and tooling had long since been amortized so GM kept building them to augment the somewhat unprofitable W bodies, which finally got sedans in 1990.
I was hoping the Wendover would be inspired by the Grand Prix, which could be optioned with a high-revving 4 and a turbocharged V6, but it's obvious that it's taking the H/E body route, which probably means a transverse V8.
Not that I know of, but some of your mods could be playing with the game's inner workings. Considering almost nothing has happened with the bus since it came out in 2017, I don't think anything is changing anytime soon.
My bad. Anyways, it's still looks like a massive enjoyable update.
We went so far off topic that the devs were forced to put together a car with parts from other cars quickly to get us back on topic. /s
I've been looking through GM's lineup throughout the years, and I've realized several things:
(This is based on my own findings of the different cars of GM, and could be wrong)
The Bruckell Moonhawk seems to best represent GM's A Platform (1936 - 1981).
It looks the most like a third gen Chevy Chevelle.
The Bruckell Legran with the new facia best represents GM's A Platform (1982 - 1996).
It looks the most like a late fifth gen Oldsmobile Cutlass.
The Soliad Wendover best represents either GM's E body or W body.
It looks the most like a seventh gen Buick Riviera (E Body) or a third gen Buick Regal (W Body).
***THIS IS BASED ON WHAT I'VE FOUND ABOUT THE REAL WORLD CARS OF GM AND IS MY OWN SPECULATION OF WHAT COULD BE***
IF the Wendover is based on the W Body, and the Moonhawk is based on the A Platform, there is a POSSIBILITY that the Moonhawk and the Wendover could be the same car but just from different companies, as there have been cars sold from one of GM's subsidiaries that used the A Platform in the 70s and the W platform in the 80s. Basically what I'm saying is that IF THE DEVS WANTED TO they could have Bruckell and Soliad produce a "Moonhawk" from 1973 - 1978, and that "Moonhawk" could then become a "Wendover" in the 80s.
I could be wrong but the rear window pillars look thinner than in the derby picture. I guess its the same body but they tweaked it?
The Wendover is a full-size model. More realistically, the Wendover and Bluebuck/Grand Marshal are related product lineages like the Bonneville and Impala; the Wendover moved to FWD while the Marshal stayed RWD.