Update Speculation thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. SubaruSTI07™

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    Covet is too old More like Sunburst and ETK - 800.
     
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  2. MrAnnoyingDude

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    On the topic of a Moonhawk remaster - can anybody else tell what's wrong with this radio?
     

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  3. Alex [ITA]

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    As weird as it seems it's not unusual. It should be due to how the frequency is picked inside the radio, something logarithmic or exponential, I'm not a radio expert though.
     
  4. MrAnnoyingDude

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    OK. what frequency is the radio set on?
     
  5. ARY5588

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    Im sure that is a new tow hitch location, apart from the bumper
    screenshot_2020-04-01_02-37-261.jpg Capturadepantalla73.jpg

    1 on 1 comparison(atleast the truck, look at the license plate part) also the light looks so much better or warmer
    Capturadepantalla74.jpg screenshot_2020-04-01_02-37-26.jpg
     
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  6. Alex_Farmer557

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  7. ARES IV

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    I think we will be looking at much more mundane power levels. Which makes a lot of sense both for the target vehicle class (family compact car) and from a gameplay perspective. (we already have high performance electric cars).

    More mundane electric motors are also perfect to show of the advantages of an electric drivetrain. A car with 300 HP will always have strong acceleration values no matter the power source, let alone one with 500 and 800 HP.

    No, it is in more mundane setups where the difference is the most notable..... where an ICE built more for economy than performance struggles to deliver strong acceleration at lower RPMs. Even more so when it is not turbocharged. You need to rev those engines very high for strong acceleration values. One of the reason for turbo diesels popularity in europe is that they have arround 30 % more power at a similar RPM compared to a non charged gasoline engine.

    For example:
    Ford Focus MK 1 1,6 L Gasoline: 100 HP @6000 RPM
    Ford Focus Mk 1 1,6L Diesel: 90 HP @4000 RPM

    Gasoline @ 2000 RPM: 33 HP
    Diesel @ 2000 RPM: 45 HP - it feels faster even though it technically isnt.

    You would need to rev the gasoline engine all the way up to 5500 RPM.... only between 5500 - 6000 RPM does the gasoline engine actually has an power advantage.

    The diesel has 90 HP at 4000 RPM... the gasoline engine needs 5500 RPM for 90 HP. It feels much weaker even though it technically is 10 % stronger.

    Electric motors can deliver most of their power output from 0 RPM onwards.... granting them a feeling of power way above any non charged gasoline engine and even turbo diesels.

    Strong accelerating after leaving a city might look like this in those 3 different engine options: (100 HP gasoline, 90 HP diesel, 80 HP electric)

    Gasoline: 2000 RPM - 33 HP
    Diesel: 2000 RPM - 45 HP
    Electric: 4000 RPM - 80 HP

    Gasoline: 2500 RPM - 41 HP
    Diesel: 2500 RPM - 56 HP
    Electric: 5000 RPM - 80 HP

    Gasoline: 3000 RPM - 50 HP
    Diesel: 3000 RPM - 67 HP
    Electric: 6000 RPM - 80 HP

    Gasoline: 3500 RPM - 58 HP
    Diesel: 3500 RPM - 79 HP
    Electric: 7000 RPM - 80 HP

    Gasoline: 4000 RPM - 67 HP
    Diesel: 4000 RPM - 90 HP
    Electric: 8000 RPM - 80 HP

    -> You need high revs in an ICE for getting a significant portion of its rated power output. High revs in an ICE are however exceedingly bad for fuel economy and as such are discouraged in everyday driving.

    This is what makes turbodiesels and electric cars feel so much more sovereign in power delivery..... they dont need loud screaming revs to deliver power and as such feel and look much more powerful than they technically are.

    Being a everday mundane car also means that you can optimize the single speed transmission for the speed areas where the car will be operated the most. There is even less of an issue with top speed because your everyday family car just doesnt do 250+ km/h anyway.

    In english... having a strong acceleration between 0 - 130 km/h is much more important than the acceleration above 130 km/h.... even more so when even 130 km/h is faster than street legal in most countries of the world. And this is precisly the strong point of electric vehicles and to an lesser extent, turbo diesels.

    Few buyers even in germany cared about the fact that the 90 HP diesel has a lower topspeed than the 100 HP gasoline engine. It felt much more powerful in everyday driving conditions and enjoyed a significant lower fuel consumption. Even more so when you go above 120 km/h. Diesels have always been more efficient than gasoline engines.... but the more you push those engines to their limits.... the wider the gap becomes. At highway speeds... at german highway speeds even more so..... diesel show far more restraint in fuel consumption than any gasoline engine.

    Turbo Diesel = driving fast with still acceptable fuel consumption.... while most of those "economic" non charged gasoline engines forget any and all manners above a certain speed and casually guzzles way into the mid double digit numbers.


    Electric motors similary to ICE can be tuned or detuned at will (within the engines limits of course). Being just if not more computer controlled as any modern ICE means that you can easily increase or decrease power output in software only.

    Many electric motors can be overloaded, granting them increased performance potential until the thermal limits are reached. For example, a lot of electric train motors have two rated power levels. One is the short time maximum possible output without damaging the motor... the other, lower value is the sustained power output that can be delivered permanently.

    I can easily imagine the Vivace with different battery sizes..... seing that the battery is the single most expensive part of any EV for the time being.... it makes little sense not to have this option.
     
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  8. FS16

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    The Sunburst is a similar segment but completely different body style and also a gen older, and the ETK 800 is completely different body style and a way more expensive segment. As it stands there really are no ingame competitiors, which they also have said is the point of every car they make - covering as many different archetypes as possible.
     
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  10. JDMguy05

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    Uhh, I don't think anyone ever mentioned a mirror.
    Ignore my idiocracy. ^
     
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  12. Cutlass

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    nvm
     
  13. vmlinuz

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    That is a very good post, now I want a diesel.
     
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  14. Nathan24™

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    Steam said my game was being updated, but I checked the Devblog and there wasn't anything new. I was so hyped for a moment, just to realize it was only for a bugfix... :/
     
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  15. KrukasKlep

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    The o'l "just a fix for common trash"
     
  16. ManfredE3

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    I highly doubt a major release would be without warning. Especially knowing how steam likes to do it's own thing with random updates.

    Subscribe to their youtube chanel and turn on notifications, keep an eye on the devblog, watch for the official 0.18 discussion thread to get locked, and watch for anouncements on this thread. All of those should be indicators of updates a fair while before anything is actually recieved to the steam client.
     
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  17. Jeppoer

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    Did anyone notice that reflections are only applied to the D-series? The roamer doesn't seem to have dynamic reflections...
     
  18. Alex_Farmer557

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    dynamic reflections only works on one vehicle at a time
     
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  19. Jeppoer

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    woops. don't mind me then:rolleyes:
     
  20. KrukasKlep

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    i just turn them off, they eat unnessicary performance.
     
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