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Ibishu Hopper

Discussion in 'Official Content' started by gabester, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. stale

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  2. coolusername

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    I wonder why they still have Gavril wheels and no front license plate for the park ranger Hopper?
    Even the Crawler has front and rear plates and why would park rangers put different rims on it?? These are not private owned vehicles you can customize how you want.
    This is how it looks like with Hopper wheels and front plate, way better IMO
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  3. CaptainZoll

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    the way I see it, the choice is less so for aesthetics, and more for "using what you have". I'd imagine the JRI police department have limited resources, so they just pulled a set of wheels and tires off some D-series and put them on their hopper.
     
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  4. EruptionTyphlosion

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    If anything the park ranger hopper is a Utah unit as said map has the ranger station.
     
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  5. coolusername

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    It could be meant for any US map, not just one.
     
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    I found a texture issue with the roll bar padding. Has anyone else noticed this?
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  7. coolusername

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    I hope one day we can configure the colors on the Jurass... i mean Beam Safari skin! Or rather on all ingame skins (not just some)!
     
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    I just want to say its surprisingly hard to get both the Hopper and the Roamer to rollover. SUVs/Jeeps of the era where infamous for having constant rollovers in sharp turns/braking maneuvers.
     
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    Does the Hopper & Roamer have the same suspension as Jeeps & SUVs of that time? If not, then that probably explains the lack of easy rollovers
     
  10. Agent_Y

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    The Roamer literally has a pickup suspension so no. And the Hopper is too light for rollovers I think.
     
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    Yeah, IIRC putting a dummy in it makes it a lot more rollover-prone (the hopper), especially since they are quite heavy.
     
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  12. Stiggy111

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    Technically speaking, yes they do-- You just have to know where to look. To expand, the Roamer is loosely based on the late 90s Ford Expedition, and later 90s Chevrolet Tahoe/Suburban. Both of those vehicles had the same exact front suspension setup as their pickup truck siblings did, and that can be seen with the Roamer and D-Series. However, the rear suspension setup of the real-life counterparts can vary.

    As for the suspension on the Hopper, yes. It is almost exactly identical in setup as the late 90s Jeep Wrangler.

    One big factor of these rollovers were the tires of the day. And one thing that the Devs are still working on is the tire friction, which currently is still very "grabby" if you will.
     
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    Plus, the standard tires are just "standard", there's no differentiation beetween old and new tires, apart from very old one like the Bias Plys.
     
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  14. The Gas Station

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but "more grabby" tires should cause more rollovers? A rollover happens when for some reason the center of mass of a vehicle moves outside of the wheelbase (forgive my simplified and half-scientific explanation, I don't want to get too in-depth).

    If the car slides because of low friction, a rollover cannot happen, since the center of mass remains above the wheelbase. (the car won't "tilt" but slide instead, so it won't roll over)
    The engineers usually design cars and SUVs to behave this way, so traction will break before a rollover would happen, since it's better to crash into a barrier due to understeer/oversteer, than to crash into a barrier while also upside-down. (Again-simplified... And lorries are an exception)

    As far as my experience goes, off-roaders aren't as unstable as some people think. My experience is not with 80's-90's Jeeps and pickups, but more modern ones, and off course, off-roaders are much less stable than regular cars. But they are still required to pass safety tests and inspections, and there are still engineers planning them. As long as it's not modified too far from it's OEM suspension and tire setup (mostly ride height but also some other parameters), and you are not driving in a totally ridiculous manner (or in extreme off-road situations), the car should not just randomly roll over. Even in rather tight cornering and braking, it would slide instead. (again, my experience speaks here, but other people might have different experiences)
     
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    Maybe "grabby" wasn't the best word there I think, I think they meant more like "too resistant against tipping over because they are kinda stuck to the ground". I guess that's because the side angle of the tire in game is 90 degrees which makes it hard to fall over, while irl tires have like a rounded edge or 2 smaller angles? Idk.
     
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    Theory about this: Taller car= less stability: dead
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    And looks like if make it lower, wider, then the problem is fixed (but we know it's a jeep)
     
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