General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. KuchenVier

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  2. MrAnnoyingDude

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    How many relatively lightweight RWD 4-seater cars are there for $30k?
     
  3. GotNoSable!

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    -Miata
    -SEAT Leon Cupra R (Not technically a sports car but still)
    -Hyundai Veloster N
    -Civic SI (bit of a stretch but same power to weight ratio)
    And don't get me started on older cars that can outrun the thing.
    Yes I know that the only RWD one here is the Miata but I never brought RWD into this so i'm including some other drivetrains.
     
  4. CHEESE!

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    MX-5 - Only two seats
    SEAT Leon Cupra R - Too much power to enjoy fully at legal speeds.
    Hyundai Veloster N - Same problem
    Civic SI - Not as fun to drive (personal opinion)

    Also, the GT86 is a car that handles very well. Handling is different to grip. Handling is all about the way in which the car communicates and the extent to which one has control over the car. Stirling Moss said that the best handling car he ever drove was the Jaguar D-Type, a car with significantly less grip than any of the cars mentioned so far. The GT86 is not designed to lap quickly, it is designed to put a smile on your face.
     
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  5. GotNoSable!

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    Pffft haha nice joke you forgot the /s.
    The thing dives into corners like a whale with heartburn and no will to live, it's got the out-of-corner/end-of-corner acceleration of a Kombi van, it's as fun to drive as a Prius (A newer one, the mk2 was fun as shit to thrash) and it's got the grip of Sliphantom's Plasti-Dipped Sunfire.
    I can hardly call that a sports car.
    Also, the question was this:
    All of these cars fit that criteria (except for the Miata) save for the whole RWD thing, but you don't need RWD to have fun (See statement about mk2 prius above.)
     
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    Hyundai Genesis coupé (second generation)
     
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  8. Shotgun Chuck

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    Every car including a three cylinder Geo Metro has too much power to enjoy fully at legal (or bicycle/pedestrian-compliant) speeds. And yes, the GT86 is designed to put a smile on your face, but it doesn't do so as well as other cars.

    The thing is, the Miata isn't a numbers car either and it does pretty much the GT86's entire schtick better than the GT86 itself does. The GT86 is a compromise car; it's not as agile or well-balanced as a Miata, not as fast as a Mustang, and not as practical as the various FWDs competing for roughly the same market. It's just sort of stuck out in no-man's-land somewhere where it gets beaten by something at everything.

    I'm surprised that you're willing to admit that any driving is drag racing.
     
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  9. MrAnnoyingDude

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    It is lighter than the US muscle, while having the practicality of a four-seater.

    It's been out for several years, and is a fat pig by the Toyobaru standards.
     
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    Do you know how useless those rear seats are?
    Completely unless if you're an infant or a paraplegic.
    Also @Shotgun Chuck did we just agree?
    Yoooooooo.
     
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    Any evidence of this? So far provided nothing but some raw horsepower specs for a car in a different class that weighs more
    The rear seats in the GT86 are for tax purposes only, you can't fit a 10 year old in them (seen it tried), even with the front seats all the way forward there is a tiny gap I can't even get my arm in let alone a leg
     
  12. GotNoSable!

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    All the cars I stated above weigh between 2600-3100 pounds, which is the same weight class as the GT-86, and are around the same price (The Cupra and a comparable Miata are both probably slightly more expensive than a top line GT-86 but not by a huge margin) so I don't really get your point.
     
  13. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I did sit there, so I do know that it's an OK 2+2 car.
     
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    MrAnnoyingDude is a 9-year-old confirmed.
     
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    LOL
     
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    mrannoyingdude is an amputee confirmed
     
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    So, the 2021 Toyota Supra already got some pretty decent tweaks and a new I4 model, along with a new special model called the A91 Edition...

    Fair enough.
     
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    Just watched the Doug Demuro 2020 Highlander review. I must say, I'm actually impressed.

    If it came with a full time chauffeur I would suggest it to my family. But it doesn't.
     
  19. Shotgun Chuck

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    Well, he has admitted that he's not old enough to drive yet.
     
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  20. GWMan

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    Interesting, I didn't know that. He sounds older then he may actually be in real life.
     
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