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Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. skodakenner

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    Im kind of wondering how the VW ID3 will do because the boss of VW treats it a bit like the successor of the Golf. Im not sure if the market is ready for that. Also why cant VW design the ID3 a bit like a normal car the ID3 looks as bad as the BMW i3 why cant they make it like peugeot or opel wich just design them normally?
     
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  2. Youngtimer

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    I like what's Peugeot doing, to offer the same car in petrol, diesel, hybrid and electric configs. Although IMO new 208 is ugly AF.
     
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  3. redrobin

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    One of these is a precision instrument of speed and terror... the other is an Alfa Romeo.

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  4. MrAnnoyingDude

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    How I wasted the last half-hour:
     

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  5. Mullethead

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    About time I hear someone else have a bit of a distaste for that new 208. I find it very awkward looking and overall out of wack.
     
  6. MrAnnoyingDude

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    For me, it depends on the angle you look at it from. From some it's amazing, from some it's awfully-proportioned.

    At least it looks different from the Mk1 - unlike the new Renault Clio, which I saw at the local dealer and didn't realize was new until I saw the info placard with "NEW CLIO" on it.
     
  7. Mullethead

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    it probably looks better in person, but from the images the 208 has a bunch of unbalanced proportions.
     
  8. HadACoolName

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    I personally think the 208 looks fantastic

    Not a fan of Peugeot's interior design language though
     
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  9. Youngtimer

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    New Clio looks very beautiful to me, although it's essentially an evolution of the previous model. IMO new models don't need necessarily to be different than the predecessors to be pretty or succesful. But, the most shocking fact about the new Clio is that the most basic model with the starting price of around 11K euros doesn't have aircon! Even Dacia Sandero, the cheapest car in Europe has aircon in all versions. But, there are LED lights and some non-necessary stuff.
     
  10. MrAnnoyingDude

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    It's not a bad design - in fact, it's one of the better-looking new cars. The issue is that the new model exhibits surprisingly little originality.

    As for the equipment... interesting, will have to check it.
     
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  11. GotNoLimbs!

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    Raymond Loewy designed this, the facelift for the 1953-onward Studebaker coupes and sedans.

    Howard "Dutch" Darrin penned the facelift for the 1951 Kaiser Manhattan (And the Kaiser Darrin.)

    And Dick Teague designed the AMX/3, probably the best looking 60's supercars of all time.

    Now why the high hell don't they get ANY credit?
     
  12. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Terror, probably. Speed, not so much.
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    The Clio still is at the lower end of the B-segment pricing scale, and when you factor in the cost of the A/C and radio options, it's priced comparably to competitors like the Ford Fiesta and undercuts stuff like the Peugeot 208 or VW Polo.

    Sure, there are weird combination choices (No 65 HP engine outside base version? Diesel only in the 2nd one?), but they're no worse than stuff like the manual-only "premium" Ford Fiesta Vignale.
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    Also, the Sandero is an amazing value option, even if you consider its general inferiority.

    Sure, you may not get as much car itself as in the Clio, but for the price of a base Clio (65 HP, no radio, no A/C, white paint) you can get a white or dark blue Sandero with 10 HP more, a GPS, back-up camera, automatic A/C and spare tire.

    And if you were going to pay for the Renault's A/C and radio, you can get alloys, leatherette seats and other paint colours for the Sandero with that money.
     
  13. Mullethead

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    Ford just teased the Bronco R prototype, which essentially foreshadows what the new Bronco is sorta gonna look like as a production model.

    This oddly reminds me of the F-Series Super Duty and the Land Rover Defender at the same time though.
     
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  14. MisterKenneth

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    I think it looks good so far.

    It's a lot like what Toyota did with the Supra, where they revealed a racing variant before they revealed the actual car.
     
  15. Mullethead

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    Except with the Supra, it was originally hinted by a more supercar-esque design, rather than a rally raid/baja style design as in the case of the Bronco.
     
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    I also think its a bit odd. IMO an electric Golf would outsell an ID3. Even more oddly, they have actually engineered and built an electric Golf, but they only intend to sell it for 1 year, at which point the ID3 launches and the e-golf will be discontinued. I do wonder if they will be rare and significant enough that depreciation won't hit them so hard.
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  19. skodakenner

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    Did they make the eGolf really only a year? And yes i also think a eGolf would have sold better. I also dislike VW's EV or bust mentality wouldnt at least one hydrogen car be better?
     
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  20. MisterKenneth

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    So what's the point in introducing the E-Golf if it's only going to be in production for one year? Even Lamborghinis and Ferraris, built in limited quantities, get produced for more than one year.
     
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