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Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. Peterbilt

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  2. Brown_Diplomat

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    I guess so, do i just slap some rally tires and some numbers and compete?
     
  3. Peterbilt

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    Oh, you mean legitimately. I have no idea, I just meant that we've had alot of fun beating around with a Cavvy on gravel and dirt roads.



    Today we ran my buddy's 78 K10 in Greenfield, we sucked. The track was way too thin and slimy for us, we spun halfway down the track, and still beat two other trucks, though one was on a technicality when the Ford in the other lane jumped the tree.

    Basically all we learned today was that the manual has to go, literally everything else there had an automatic, and it showed.
     
  4. Shotgun Chuck

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    I'm guessing he's British and means a Vauxhall Cavalier. Which may be a completely different car.

    If you mean the American Cavalier, any of its actually decent engines are probably too big to fit in anything except the most amateur of amateur rallies (and the 3.1L is likely to be too big even then), and it was never available with a limited-slip diff. Also, twist-beam back end. So... not really?

    If he does mean a Vauxhall Cavalier, I must confess that I know not the first thing about it.
     
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    The American Cavalier, i've seen some people compete in Cavaliers.
     
  6. Godzilla!

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    A bunch of GM's cars were built on the J-body platform throughout the 1980s and 1990s with the Cavalier being Chevy and Vauxhall's model (and Toyota for the third gen). The J-bodies were sold as Holdens (Camira), Pontiacs (1982-1994 Sunbird), Buicks (1982-1989 Skyhawk), Opels (Ascona B and C), Vauxhalls, Isuzus (1983-1989 Aska), the Cimarron and Olds (Firenza).

    I'm not sure if they all share similar powertrains but some look completely different from each other.
     
  7. Shotgun Chuck

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    Son of a gun. Here I thought I was the expert on J-bodies, and I still thought the Vauxhall was a completely different model! You missed one though, at least sort of: the Daewoo Espero/Aranos (which I know of by pure dumb luck because someone once made a mod of it for Need for Speed High Stakes and I think I also heard of it once recently in some other context.)
     
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    Am i the only one who would like to see a old volvo beeing crashed into a new one to compare them because that would be a tough battle for both
     
  9. aljowen

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    Don't underestimate the economic impact of a fatal crash either. Once you factor in the costs of all the emergency services, tow trucks, people to clean up extra debris, fix anything that you may have hit, productivity losses from those you know at work, etc. It can very quickly rack up to 7 digits of economic impact. Sure, you could say that is jobs being created, but you could say the same about employing people to burn money, doesn't mean its good for the economy.

    This alone is a solid reason for governments to want to car safety to increase, since they would rather money is spent on things that will increase the countries wealth, not scraping the remains of people off of the wind shields of old cars.
     
  10. ktheminecraftfan

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    This is one benefit to old cars with fat top air filter housings.
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    Ignore the makeshift fuel tank.
     
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  11. Wolf

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    I hope that fuel tank is mod plated
     
  12. aljowen

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    It is intended to make crashes super exciting...
     
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  13. ktheminecraftfan

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    Nope. yeah that's kiwi ingenuity right there! it would be more kiwi if it was tied to the frame using no 8 wire.

    Its not ideal but it somehow works (its only temporary until my dad gets the actual fuel tank removed and checked out).
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    Again its only temporary. Yeah i know its dumb (it was my dad that decided to do that) and sketchy but it works!
     
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  14. Googlefluff

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    Nope, not in a head-on crash anyway. An older car will always lose, as Fifth Gear has proved multiple times.




    Just to be absolutely clear for @Hirochi, the toughness of the newer cars had no effect whatsoever on the older cars. The only relevant factor is mass; crashing two old Volvos or two old Discos together in the same way would have been just as bad for both vehicles.
     
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  15. ktheminecraftfan

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    Dam guys why did it all come down to crashes (I mean this is a community based around a game with insane crash damage) its fine as its only there so the car can start and move easily.it would be removed in time (which knowing my dad would be in forever) thank you gutlys for caring about me and my fathers safety.
     
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    Got my roadster out on the track yesterday finally, was a blast :) sorry about the quality, the gf filmed in portrait so had to convert it :mad:

     
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    Not always. Try putting a 1997 VW Golf vs 2017 Renault Kwid or any other similarly sized car for 3rd world market.
     
  18. Googlefluff

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    Sure, strictly speaking, but you've got to draw the line somewhere. You're not gathering any useful information unless you're testing cars that are at least somewhat comparable relative to their age and the region they were designed for. Whereas the Renault and Golf will rarely, if ever, cross paths, a test between the Renault and a 1997 Hindustan Ambassador, for example, would be useful to show how car safety has progressed within a specific market, even if that market is lagging behind others.
     
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  19. Ytrewq

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    Well, in some regions (like Russia) EU-spec cars that have 4 or 5 EuroNCAP stars are sold alongside tin cans like Lada Priora, Geely Otaka, Chery Amulet etc. And these cars often cross paths, sometimes physically- resulting in a fatal or heavily injuring collision. So it is vital that all cars for all markets should be at least 3 EuroNCAP stars safe.
     
  20. HadACoolName

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    Tragedy
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