Update Speculation thread

Really? Genuine question. The chassis looks very similar to the one on TJ. The engines also seem familiar. However deep the
resemblances go you can assume a certain behaviour from a moderately light, short wheel base, two solid axles off-roader.

 

i think the hoppers concept needs to be split between 2 different vehicles
the body should be changed over to an american model because a japanese jeep like vehicle makes little to no sense if you think about how the jeep came about
and the running gear should be moved over to an suv/pickup truck chassis

 

That's because the Hopper's meant to be more like the TJ Wrangler than the JK/JL - the TJ (at least in the US) never came with a 4-door from the factory. There was a longer-wheelbase version (Unlimited), though.

However, there was a semi-official 4-door TJ, the AIL Storm II, made in Israel for the IDF. (And a 4-door wagon version of the Mitsubishi Jeep, a licence-built version of the Jeep CJ.) So, a 4-door Hopper could happen (and considering how commonly it's requested, I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen), but I don't think it's certain.

A common request for the Barstow is a notchback body style - it could also receive a ute, like the Miramar did. I'm not sure if a sedan or wagon Barstow would happen, but the front of the Barstow sure looks like it'd fit on a sedan.

I don't think the Bluebuck's going to be getting a major refresh (although it could get a similar treatment to what the Burnside got in 0.35, with a slightly-updated model and texturing), but the Moonhawk and Barstow are absolutely contenders for a refresh. I'd argue the Moonhawk needs a full remaster, with how ancient it is.

There was the Mitsubishi Jeep, built under licence from 1953-1998. The Hopper could also be built under licence from some US automaker.

 

I don't think we will get a pickup or sedan version of the Barstow since it is based off of the Mustang. the closest we could get is probably a convertible version

 

that would be alot better than the current situation maybe it started out as a licensed version and grew to be a seperate thing through out the years

 

I've driven and been in a lifted four door Wrangler and whenever a truck went by in the other lane it would get some serious wobbles and almost go straight off the road. They truly do drive like shit.

 

the biggest problem I have with the hopper is that the stock steering bends way too easily when crawling so a reinforced version would be nice

 

I'd love to see 5-door and pickup body styles for the Hopper, as well as diesel engines, military configs, and a US rebadge.

 

Exactly. I never found the point in this car being an Ibishu other than depicting the Asian copycats. I mean, the 2.5 I4 and the 4.0 I6 engines of this car share the same displacements with some Bruckell engines (the 2.5 I4 is the same size as the 2.5 I4 of the Bruckell LeGran and Soliad Lansdale and the 4.0 I6 has the same displacement as the 244CUI, or 4.0-liter, Econo-Six I6 of the Bruckell Moonhawk). So yeah, the model in general could definitely very well be a Bruckell Hopper! Sounds nice as a name too!
And these Bruckell engines themselves could also be shared with the Hopper and have the exact same gradual upgrades and improvements in engine peripherals (intakes and rev limiters) as the other Bruckell models of the era, to keep the buyers interested. The 2.5 I4, for example, could start in the 1989 MY in the same state as in the Bruckell LeGran S (that's 102hp/190Nm, verified by the Torque Curve UI App, as are all the other numbers you'll read) and it could be upgraded for the 1996 MY to the same state as the then newly-introduced Lansdale (that's 140hp/221Nm). Just for reference, the current 2.5 I4 of the current Hopper produces 123hp/218Nm, without any upgrade options.
As for the 244CUI I6, it needs more modern peripherals to get inline with its era, au contrair to its malaise days in the Moonhawk, and it could start in the 1989 MY with the current Hopper's 165hp/296Nm (already coming a long way since the Moonhawk's 105hp/228Nm), and end its final 2001 MY with, say, 185hp/320Nm! There's big potential in the 244CUI I6 being reused and repurposed after the discontinuation of the Moonhawk for Bruckell's 80s, 90s and 00s SUVs!

So, stats!

1989 - 1995 Bruckell Hopper with Bruckell engines:
2.5 I4 -> 102hp/190Nm
4.0 I6 -> 165hp/296Nm

1996 - 2001 Bruckell Hopper facelift with Bruckell engines:
2.5 I4 -> 140hp/221Nm
4.0 I6 -> 185hp/320Nm

Current Hopper's Ibishu engines' stats, just for reference:
2.5 I4 -> 123hp/218Nm
4.0 I6 -> 165hp/296Nm

 

Now that you mention it, the YJ Wrangler had fuel injection, so it would make sense to include it in those engines.

 

Yep, especially the 244 I6 could benefit from it immensely!

 

No offence, but i love that the Americans here cant accept that the hopper is Japanese. In the BeamNG Universe it’s likely not an American design. Guys, if we need another american car it has to be peak 70s and 80s sedans and wagons.

 

I'm European and I could accept it if it weren't for two reasons:

1) the engine displacements are just too similar - literally no-brainer, as I said, and
2) the lovely Classic variant, with its military styling and reference, would never be made by a company from a country which lost a war (and in a truly awful way at that, too). Seems extremely off, tbh...

 

Now that makes sense. I just want a simplified traffic hopper.

 

I'm from the U.S., and to be honest, I don't really care about the fact that the Hopper is Japanese

 

I'm Australian and I think it's a bit stupid, for the same reasons as McBeamer

 

As a Aussie who wants a moonhawk remake, with sedans to mimic the next best thing to a Aussie HOLDEN Ford falcon and aussie valiant,

Seeing the hopper become a Japeses pick up truck like what every out back ute is the landy ( landcruiser )

Would be a dream come true, EVEN if its only a 2 door, a ute version would be ideal I guess ute the world

 

Completely agreed, we need a 76/79 Landcruiser or maybe a ln65 Hilux/4runner

 

Also proper ute trays for the D series would be nice
something like this

 

WWII is canon in the BeamNGverse?