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Discussion in 'Automotive' started by marlenemancuso, Nov 20, 2019.
what are your thoughts. im outraged that its called a mustang but let me know what think
Only issue I have is the Mustang name being put on the car, other than that I dig it.
I honestly hate it. Ford could have used any car in their lineup. I wouldnt care if it was called the flex, the fusion, the explorer, any name but mustang. Ford essentially is ruing 50+ years of development and love for the mustang. Now we are going to have Karens bragging about owning a mustang on twitter every 5 minutes when in reality, it is essentially just an electric ford escape.
They aren't really ruining anything, because the real mustang is still a running model. That's like saying the Probe ruined the Mustang. It didn't.
yes, but the probe was only made for 3 years. plus the probe was meant to be a successor to the mustang. who knows how long the mach e will last with all the hype around it?
It's not pretty. It has an awful name. But otherwise, yeah, pretty worthy Tesla model Y competitor I reckon. it'll be fine as a vehicle.
at least the probe wasn’t called “Ford Mustang eco”
The Mach-e is not a Mustang.
This is a Mustang.
That is all...
Ford Mustang but clinical depression and suggestive name.
I mean Ford Probe.
I dunno, the design i get but not the name if it was called an explorer or an escape we would be fine. Aside from the door handles, the styling cue for them is aerodynamic sure but also a pain(figuratively and literally) to open especially if buy chance your key fob and phone are dead and you forgot the combination code(the doors need actual mechanical locks as a backup) and having to jamb your hands into the cracks to open them just screams bad choices. IMO the mustang 2 from 1978 is more mustang than the "mustang" mach-e and everyone knows the mustang 2 wasn't really a mustang but it was still a two door coupe. Heck the mach-e doesn't even deserve to have mach in the name considering the well known mustang mach-1.
I feel you there, I think that the "Probe" name would have been much more fitting for a vehicle like this (Yes the production Probe was a "sports" car, but Probe was also used for experimental designs in the 80s by ford.)
Plus, Ford is already using sport car nameplates and slapping them on crossovers (cough cough Puma), so it could've been plausible for this car to bear the name.
The major reason why it even is gaining as much attention as it is because it has the Mustang name. If it was another name, I bet you $100 it would've not been exactly a car to bat an eye at.
Ignoring name. I can't be the only one that thinks it's design would have looked better as a 4 door coupe or sedan
What the absolute HECK was Ford thinking when they took the renowned Mustang name and slapped it on a stupid electric SUV?! The only thing Mustang about it are the triple bar taillights, and it pretty much stops there. Even the 1974-78 Mustang II (often regarded as the worst Mustang of all time) had more "Mustang" in it than this monstrosity!
Even dusting off the old Maverick name would have been a better choice, or better yet, call it Edsel, or ECO-noline. Any name other than Mustang would have been better, honestly. The Mustang was meant to be a 2-door pony car, and nothing else!
I admit that I'm not too keen on the Mustang name being slapped on it, though I have to give Ford SOME credit. The Mach-E isn't replacing the Mustang, which was the case with the Eclipse Cross and the Eclipse. If the Mach-E was slated to replace the Mustang like the case with the Eclipse, than yeah, I'd have some bones to pick with Ford. In a way, I see the Mach-E as a Mustang spin-off, and because of that, I can't be too mad at it.
I think that unlike Mitsubishi, Ford is aware of how close the Mustang is with people. I mean, the Mustang is like the only car that is surviving Ford's Thanos snapping of cars in the US Market in order to focus on their trucks and SUVs. I won't count the GT if it ain't getting snapped, because let's face it, that's a rich toy. Average folk couldn't afford it.
And honestly, people should be happy they called it Mach-E, because the name Mach-1 got floated around, until Ford listened to people and called it Mach-E instead. I'm glad they didn't call it Mach-1, because that I would've felt was inappropriate.
Only time will tell how successful the Mach-E will be. It's honestly not the worst thing I've seen. I'd rather own a Mach-E than a Pinto.
1. It's meant to be a Tesla competitor. The future of automobiles is electric, so obviously manufacturers are going to start jumping in on that trend.
2. An employee of Ford said in a video that they hope that the Mustang nameplate will attract customers. Whether this is a make or break situation has yet to be revealed.
Why do people even hate the Mustang II? Did they forget the 1970's oil crisis and the Pinto was a thing?
Well, hate to break it to you, but it looks like the Mustang came close to being a sedan at some point too. Why Ford never produced this is a mystery in itself.
Something tells me I'd probably love your reaction to this being a real thing, if you think the Mustang should be limited to a 2-door vehicle only.
Spin-off or not, you can't just pick a extremely nostalgic and historical nameplate and slap it on a generic-looking crossover and add a few cues to call that a "Mustang". Hell, it wasn't even meant to be anything related to the Mustang when the electric crossover was formulating. So it wasn't even planned to be a Mustang crossover to begin with, was just gonna be a FWD electric crossover.
First of all, that is completely fucking unfair to compare a 70s Oil Crisis car to a brand new electric crossover. You do realize that brands had to find ways to comply with compacting their cars at the times, and whether those were successful was what made or break them. Nowadays, we have a lot more freedom now that we have so many trends happening at once. Plus, the Pinto's major flaw isn't unsalvageable (besides, Pintos still have a bit of good credibility despite it's design flaw) , unlike with the Mach-E which is it's identity and entire design.
There are plans for the Mustang to become a four-door sedan in the future, so the idea isn't completely dead.
so a V8 powered Charger competitor or an electric Tesla Model S competitor, I guess?
Yeah, sure it's "completely fucking unfair" to compare a modern electric crossover, that's going to be many times safer, to a 70's oil crisis car that had a deadly safety issue that Ford refused to fix, and only fixed after they got hit hard with lawsuits and an investigation by the NHTSA, because said safety issue had gotten people hurt or killed. It's honestly a shocker that the Pinto didn't put them out of business. I can easily see that occurring in another reality.
The case with the Mach-E is purely its identity and how people is reacting to it. People are simply mad that it's an electric crossover that happens to have the Mustang name on it. Which is understandable, we're all used to the Mustang being a sports car built for performance, so this is something completely different. But, the case with the Pinto was its manufacturer not caring about the safety of their car, and that got people hurt or killed. As soon as it was clear that the Pinto had a dangerous problem, Ford should've immediately recalled the car. But no, Ford didn't officially recall the Pinto over its gas tank issue until 1978, after getting 117 lawsuits. Two years later, the car exited production. Honestly, the fact that it burst into flames during its rear crash test should've told Ford that the car wasn't ready for production yet. I mean, if I ran my own car company, and one of my cars burst into flames during a crash test, I would want that to be resolved before the car ever entered production for consumers to purchase.
If any safety issues does arise with the Mach-E, odds are they will be recalled quickly, and it won't take an investigation by the NHTSA and almost 120 lawsuits to make Ford recall them.
Umm, where are you even hearing this? Sounds to me like a rumor, and rumors aren't always true.
Because you literally made it clear from the first statement that both are absolutely different. Also, I'm pretty sure that Ford didn't recall it as quickly as possible because they were trying to keep themselves afloat or go bust. The Mach-E could've been easily kept the same as originally conceptualized because they didn't have the grueling restrictions and damages that the 70s oil crisis did to them with the Pinto. They didn't make the best design choices, but atleast they didn't try to market it as something very desirable or spiritually fascinating. Also, people aren't mad that the Mach-E is electric, but that it's a crossover and wears the Mustang name. If it was a sedan or coupe, or just not called a Mustang at all, I guarantee you people would've been way more fine with it. It's not always worth risking a historic nameplate for a new car, and in this case they really need to show capabilities to show that it deserves to be pinned a Mustang, instead of a gimmick.
Doesn't matter what surname shit they add to the model name, it still wears the major thing that is gurgling a lot of people with mixed reactions. Sure, it was a good idea they decided that Mach 1 wasn't gonna work for the fans, but it doesn't change the fact that it didn't change what people were skeptical about the most with the car (and still are).
It could be, but at the same time there isn't anything that exactly de-confirms this either. Honestly, I'm just waiting to see the actual electric Mustang instead of hear more of the Mach E.
As for SixSix's idea, I think it would be very plausible that it would've been acclaimed way better had it been a sedan or coupe. The front design could easily work on a sedan body (considering crossovers are trying to become more car-like these days), so a Mach-E sedan could've been a better direction for them.
"Grueling restrictions" is not a crutch for a dangerous gas tank design. The issue with the Pinto's gas tank could've been fixed before the car even entered production. Like I said, the fact that it exploded during its rear end crash test should've raised a red flag concerning the cars safety. The smart decision would be to fix it before it becomes a major problem, and clearly that's not what Ford did.
Pretty sure this isn't exclusive to modern vehicles. This is more on the side of the advertisers, and they are good at what they do. They'll say and do anything they can to get you to buy their product.
Ahem, allow Shotgun Chuck to introduce himself. He hates all electric vehicles, and no doubt there's more people like him. Yes, people are mad just for the fact that the Mach-E is electric, it's not just because it's a crossover or that it bears the Mustang name. It's 1/3 reasons.
Honestly I'm surprised he hasn't responded here yet.
I highly doubt that. Like, a lot. So many people are very hard to please nowadays. I actually find it rare to find people who appreciate modern vehicles. There's only a few select members here I can think of that can find some appreciation in modern vehicles. Sometimes I feel alone.