My pet peeve of this game.

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  1. Sunset Drive

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    The Gavril Barstow, the games first fully-fledged muscle car, has a distinct problem.
    Power output.
    For a reason unknown to me, the power outputs in all V8 Barstows are way under what they should be.
    291 2bbl: power of 4bbl counterpart current.
    353 2bbl: power of 4bbl counterpart current.
    423 2bbl: power of 4bbl counterpart current.

    291 4bbl: 252 HP
    353 4bbl: 328 HP
    423 4bbl: 406 HP

    Tracksport: 252 HP
    Lancehead: 406 HP
    Kingsnake: 492 HP
    Nightsnake: 671 HP
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    Also, the Moonhawk Special, no matter any emissions bullshitery, should have around 430-500 BHP.
     
  2. amarks240

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    Tune them.
     
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  3. Sunset Drive

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    I, as you can tell, am not a modder, and i should not have to be asked to mod in power outputs that should be what i am asking them to be.
    any other car from the barstow era would have in the four hundreds of HP for the big blocks, and in the three hundreds, or two hundreds, for small blocks.
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    Also, the cars actually act like they have that kind of power.
    it is just a reading error of the Torque curve app and the readings under the performance tab.
     
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  5. Sunset Drive

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    Also, the cars actually act like they have that kind of power.
    it is just a rea
    I did not know that, but still, the mach 1's HP was a bit underrated, mainly actually aiming for 360 something, or that could just be the one i bought.
     
  6. Peterbilt

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    The Moonhawk is supposed to be from the height of the emissions strangling nonsense.

    Think LS6 454, in 1970 it was rated at 450 HP, and in reality it was closer to 550, GM just told the insurance companies it was 450. But by '74, they had done away with the LS6, and the most powerful 454 available was barely making 250.


    But those are only stock numbers, and who leaves anything stock?
     
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    70s and 80s cars were pretty underpowered.
     
  8. Sunset Drive

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    Yes, but that only applies to vehicles after '72-'73 range.
     
  9. RobertGracie

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    I remember reading about it, it was linked with the introduction of the early Cat Converters if I recall, @SixSixSevenSeven can you shed any light on this for me I remember hearing about it but I cant remember the exact details
     
  10. Sunset Drive

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    Yes, but the Special is Supercharged.
     
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    He's right. No American car from that era marketed as a fast car made the power they claimed. Like group b rally. Everybody claimed in the range of 550 bhp. In reality those cars were making 650 at the wheel MINIMUM.
     
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    Insurance and safety groups got on them (not sure if tax reasons too), so all of sudden engines did make only 300-350hp while in reality power was around 500-550hp.

    Then at some point of 70's they moved to different hp measurement system that did decrease horse power even further, those old figures are quite bit higher because of that, so gross, net, sae, din, you have to really know what numbers are to know what power they really did make.

    In BeamNG power is from flywheel, friction losses etc. reduce numbers from what you input into files (or what developers did input into files).
     
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    What's your point? Are you making an observation, posing an argument that those cars are all wrong, hinting for an update for the devs?
     
  14. Sunset Drive

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    It still says in the TQ app that they give, like, 275 even if its the 423RS.
     
  15. Bakasan

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    The Barstow has plenty of power. It also handles like a turd, 750hp won't change that.
     
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  16. Sunset Drive

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    I think it will.
    Also, 550 does not convert to 750, genius.
     
  17. Bakasan

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    I think it won't.
     
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  18. Y4123

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    My pet peeve is the fact that when you drive onto a sidewalk your tires explode
     
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  19. Sunset Drive

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    This is not a thread about that.
    Also, I love the profile pic.
     
  20. Y4123

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    sorry I thought it was about posting our pet peeves of the game lol

    and ty it's one of my favorite albums
     
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