Manual transmission?

Firstly, i apologize if this is not the best section to post this in, but i was wondering:

Is every vehicle going to have a manual transmission option? I know that there will be different control settings for "automatic" and "manual" shifting, but will only certain vehicles have the interior modelling for it? Like a clutch pedal and shifter.
I notice in the videos and live streams and videos that the truck has the interior modelling for automatic, will there also be interior modelling for a manual version?

sorry if this is kind of hard to understand. And amazing project here by the way, ive been wanting something like this for a long time.

 

I love this. That's one thing I hate about games like Forza.

 

How about those hybrid transmissions where you have a + or - gear? Maybe make the clutch button serve an alternate function to flip cars with that type of transmission to "manual mode"? Granted I know those becoming fairly common is a recent thing, so most of BeamNG's (older) cars wouldn't be likely to include them.

 

On some cars you can, like on the 07 Subaru Outback (don't know if other years you can) you have a sequential shifter, and on an 09 Yukon Hybrid you have a + and - on the shifter to do manual if you put it into manual mode. Can't say for other vehicles, just naming what my family has pretty much.

 

That is very true, I like that. Very realistic. I appreciate attention to detail such as that. Thank you for the reply!

 

Ok, so you basically said that cars will not have manual transmissions available based on realism

Due to licensing, none of the cars are "real" so we won't get to drive manual, just because you don't feel like supporting customers who prefer manual?

Am I reading this correctly or did I miss something? I'm tempted to buy the alpha, but at the same time, so many dealbreakers are being announced, I might just stick with RoR for the time being.

 

Then I have to ask... Will there be a shop to put whatever transmission you want into the vehicle? Ya know, an after market parts shop so you can convert cars to manual and buy performance upgrades, things like that?

Seems the most practical way to make everyone happy to me

 

I'm not asking to manually shift an automatic, I'm asking for a manual. I paid for the alpha now, and only one car is available in a manual. There is absolutely no reason for this, MOST vehicles are available from the dealer in a manual, and in most of the world, manual is more popular. Not even the wagon amd civetta are available in a manual, and I can't name a single wagon/hatchback that isn't available with a manual transmission. I'm literally telling people NOT TO WASTE THEIR MONEY because of this stupid, juvenile restriction. Just download RoR, it's better, and you're free to enjoy it as you want.

Also, the one vehicle that offers a manual transmission model is terrible, and it doesn't work in manual.

If you're talking about realism, NO. Just no. Automatics have park, reverse, neutral, drive, and low range. oh, they have a brake pedal too. why is it that the brake is reverse in this game? why not have an automatic shifter like a real driving game? If I want these terrible mechanics, I can play Saints Row III. I've done enough programming myself to know that sensible controls are NOT hard to implement, and this two trigger copout had better be temporary.

 

Again why on earth do you think that having forward throttle and reverse throttle on different triggers is realistic? RoR was realistic, you had to select your automatic gear, drive, neutral and reverse with low ranges. Every automatic car has this. I know you guys have a lot to do, but people are giving you money, you're expected to do a good job.

If you guys are just trying to perfect the shifting system before you release it, I'm sorry I'm being so harsh, and I will try to be more supportive, but if the current implementation is your plan for the final game, then I've wasted $20 that I shouldn't have thrown away, and I'll be forced to discourage others from buying the game.

 

The game is in early alpha, and you are complaining about this? smh

 

There's a station wagon in here? Secret car, must find. Oh, I see what this guy's talking about now. Wow, yeah, how about you just take your self and calm it a little bit. lol, this is silly to argue about.

 

Why are people complaining? Just toggle to manual gearbox with "Q" takes about one second. I do this all the time. It doesnt bother me at all.

This game is in early alphastage, still i have put alot of hours in this game and i have really enjoyed it. I am really excited to see where the developers are taking this game.

I am checking the devblog every single day for more news. Love This Game!

 

I'm sorry for being so cynical, I'm having a hard time finding information on these forums, I realize I'm I making an @** of myself.

I appreciate all that you and your colleagues have been doing, I guess I've been playing RoR for so long that my expectations are unreasonably high, especially for this early time in development. Again, I feel bad for going off like that, please forgive my rudeness. I'm not making it easier for you guys to focus on the game, and I like what you're doing. You guys know what's up, I'm misreading you, and I will be more constructive from here on out.

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Went back in-game, kit q, and all was right in the world, terribly sorry again for my ignorant rants

 

Just a heads up, if you're confused about which transmission mode you're in (Auto, Full Manual or Manual w/Auto Clutch) hit ` (or your native keyboard equivalent) to open the console after pressing Q.

 

Since you say you had a hard time finding information on this forum:

What? All automatics have a low range? What... Unless by 'low ranges' you mean 1st and 2nd gear, I'm not sure how you got to that conclusion, only 4x4's(as far as I know) come with a low-range option... I guess you mean just 1st and 2nd gear, but stating that every auto has that is wrong too. Most do, but I'm sure there there are a few that don't, especially older cars.

Again, I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion.
I can name you 3 of the most common wagons/sedans right here:
1977-1990 Caprice only came with a 3-speed and a 4-speed, both auto.
1991-1996 Caprice only came with 2 4-speed auto options
2006-Present Caprice only comes with a 6-speed auto(probably one where you can also shift manually with a + - thing(Whatever they're called), but it's an auto none-the-less)

1981-2011 Lincoln Town Car only came with an auto
1992-2012 Ford Crown Victoria only came with an auto, and I think the 1979-1991 Ford LTD models too since they don't mention any manuals, but I don't see an easy list of available transmissions.


My 1949 Cadillac only came with an automatic too...
The JZX81 Toyota Chaser with the 1jz twin turbo engine only comes as a manual, even though that same engine is also available in the old Toyota Supra(in which it is available with a manual, I believe).


On top of that, the Civetta ain't a hatchback, it's a sportscar. The Covet(which is a hatchback) comes with a manual and an auto in the game(I think a 4 and a 5-speed?). I'm sure there are a couple of American-made hatchbacks that were only sold with an auto, and maybe some Japanese-built hatches too.

A ton of sports/hypercars nowadays only come with automatic gearboxes, or with automatics that let you manual shift with a + - thingy, or paddle shifters... Quite a few just don't let you have a proper clutch and a gearstick anymore as far as I know. I think the Lexus LFA, Lamborghini Aventador and Merc SLS AMG aren't available as a manual at all, for example.

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In America most people drive auto, and they're really common in Japan too... According to a site I found, only 6.7% of cars sold in America are sold with a manual, and I wouldn't be suprised if 50% of the models available the last 15 years weren't even available with a manual... And while it might only be America and Japan, that's still a huge amount of people...

The only reason for you to draw conclusions like that is if you're from Europe, since 80% here drive manual...