Isn't the Moonhawk rear too weak?

Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by Samuel1995, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Samuel1995

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    Yesterday, a Mazda 626 rear ended a Monte carlo in front of my house at I guess 60 Km/h. The mazda got fucked up, and it just bent the monte carlo rear bumper. So today I tried to replicate the accident with the old Pessima and the Moonhawk and I couldnt.

    http://prntscr.com/9lqqfh

    It can't believe that the pessima actually destroys the moonhawk's rear. If I hit the D15 the accident looks like the one I'm talking about.

    http://prntscr.com/9lqrzb

    So I said, maybe is that the Monte carlo is higher than the Moonhawk, so I removed the front suspension to lift the rear of the car and well...

    http://prntscr.com/9lqxh1

    Still, too much damage to the moonhawk.
     
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  2. clayton8or

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    Bump- Noticed this too, will test further.
     
  3. Samuel1995

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    I've been doing more test, if you remove the body and put the car in reverse, it does not move, and if you use wind to push it, it catches fire! Somehow the fuel tank gets stuck in the ground.

    Anyway, without body the chassis bends upwards with a 10 KM/H crash!

    http://prntscr.com/9mn366

    Not even the Pigeon chasis gets that bad with a 40 KM/H crash.
     
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  4. nastygdigger

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    Witch year was the Mazda 626?
     
  5. Sagarci

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    2002
     
  6. nastygdigger

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    Thought so, because i have a Mazda 626 with a manual, just making sure.
     
  7. Samuel1995

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  8. nastygdigger

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    Ha, and i just figured out, all the ibishu vehicles are mazda,
     
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    Except the Covet is based on a Honda Civic.
     
  10. crazikyle

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    I still think you're hitting it wrong. In the first image, the front of the pessima hits and goes over the top of the moonhawks bumper, destroying the soft trunk, and leaving little damage to the pessima.

    For the second one with the truck, the pessima slid under the bumper of the truck, destroying the pessima and leaving little damage to the truck.

    For the third test, it looks like both cars were hit on the sweet spot. The pessima's body hit right on the bumper of the moonhawk.

    I think all of your tests are accurate, but you could be forgetting an important aspect of the crash you saw IRL. If the person in the mazda was breaking heavily, then the front end of their car would have been lower, and acted like a wedge, simply sliding under the bumper of the Monte Carlo. The mazda would have been severely damaged, while the Monte would have suffered minor cosmetic damage, exactly like the second pic with the truck.
     
  11. Samuel1995

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    I slammed the brakes before every crash.

    What's the name of that sound when the tires block??? (this isn't my native language) xD I've heard that sound half a second before the impact, so I did hit the brakes right before every crash and checked in slow motion that the front of the pessima was lowered.

    In the third test the body and frame of the moonhawk bent upwards.

    Lets repeat it, this time with more screenshots.

    Brakes slammed: http://prntscr.com/9p3egf
    Closer look right before impact: http://prntscr.com/9p3ey2
    This is unbelievable: http://prntscr.com/9p3fpr
    The moonhawk bumper is bending upwarts: http://prntscr.com/9p3fzm

    Looking under the car, the frame starts to bend, while the pessima's front rounded shape is still fine!

    http://prntscr.com/9p3gbn

    Basically a plastic bumper is able to bend a beam of metal!


    Japanese plastic vs American metal! xD

    http://prntscr.com/9p3gvm


    By the way I'll use this thread to report something else, it seems that most cars use that high quality japanese plastic for their mirrors:

    http://prntscr.com/9p3k31


    To finish, I ran a test with the newer pessima at 120 KM/H and it doesn't look like a 120 KM/H crash, right? http://prntscr.com/9p3rvf

    Well, this is how the moonhawk ended: http://prntscr.com/9p3rhx and http://prntscr.com/9p3txj

     
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  12. nastygdigger

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    Thanks, also that seems weird, high quality PLASTIC mirrors. That is one good report Samuel1995. I will attemp the crash too, how many MPH was it?
     
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  13. Samuel1995

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    The old pessima rear ending the moonhawk was at 37 Mph.

    Now to get the D15 standing over its mirror you have to carefully flip it with one of the ramps of gridmap, there isn't an specific speed, just do it as slow as possible.
     
  14. nastygdigger

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  15. 147689

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    Maybe its like those Chinese crap cars over there in china that deform so easily
     
  16. Landie_Man

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    You know I always think of the 89 Pessima as being a Proton.
     
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