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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Prof.R, Nov 8, 2021.

  1. default0.0player

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    Most BeamNG mods don't even have any lua file in them. Even with lua, the mod is still very unlike an exe. Treat it like an exe will lead to unnecessary anxiety/panic that might cause sanity slippage. As of 12 November 2021, ten years after BeamNG.drive's initial release, there is still zero known "jumps the sandbox" case caused by third-party mods.

    OT: 2fastmeshslapping and revolutionslapcraft are as bad as third-party ad flooded mod sites.

    At the end of the day, this is just my opinion. People have the freedom to treat the mod zip as anything they like.
    This is not cost-efficient, naming a virus hotgirls.zip.exe or [insert most begged mod name here].zip.exe while hiding the .exe file extension is much more cost efficient for attackers than figuring out how to use BeamNG mod lua attack.
     
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  2. davidinark

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    WorldofMods was known for having infected "mods" because they offered the mods as an "easy install" via a self-extracting executable (EXE) file. People would run the EXE and get infected. The MOD itself was not infected, just the delivery mechanism. In some cases, the ZIP file would contain an infected file I can say that I downloaded hundreds of mods from that site (and others) and never once got infected (my AV software detected infections in EXE and ZIP files). Just because a file is infected, it doesn't mean your machine gets infected. You still have to act on the file.

    Someone here said they got a script to jump the sandbox via lua in "private testing." Prove it. Upload the "mod" with the payload. Or, better yet, send your supposedly successful test to the devs so they can see how (er, if) it actually does what is claimed and they can patch things to prevent such an attack (again, if it actually does exist). Can you code the LUA to perform os.execute commands? Of course. But, do they actually execute when you load the mod in BeamNG? That's the question.
     
  3. Leon_Rot

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    Im not trying to create any drama, so ill say this shortly. The Downloads are safe yes, they are, doesnt make the Mods any better doe. Its still that most Mods on there are just reuploaded or leaked Mods revamped in the worst way possible. Most of there Mods if theyre selfmade, they are terrible Meshslaps or something in that Direction. In my Opinion, the some Parts they make arent even that bad (I said Parts, not Cars and this also does not make it right for them to steal Mods and im also not on their Side) but well at the End theyre still a bunch of People stealing Mods and adding Drag Parts to them with most of the Time not even saying who the Author is (even if they did that wouldnt make it a lot better, just saying this since theres gonna be bunch of People offended by my Message in general and i wont be able to change that). So as final Statement, yes the Mods are indeed safe to download, but i still do not recommend downloading Stuff from there under any Circumstances. Aight im out ig lmfao
     
  4. B3ARD3DRAG)N

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    you...you make me angry.
     
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  5. ThatCarGuyDownTheStreet

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    Just to put my two cents in... I don't really see the guys at 2fast being that malicious. After interacting with them, they're relatively normal. Pretty much the same thing as downloading on the forums.
     
  6. Shadows

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    Wow this thread turned into a shitstorm like plenty other threads have too, typical beam community. Anyway. 2FR site is somewhat safe (could be completely wrong, but i really don't see why they would make their site a virus hangout area or whatever if they want people to download " their " stuff.) but everything there, staff, moderators, mods, etc are god awful. Not worth it at all. Basically just use the official forums and repo for mods. Basically that's it. Any other site cannot really guarantee good mods. Official site only

    I am not defending 2FR at all, but again, don't see why they would fill their site with viruses if they want others to download their crap.
     
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  7. Dummiesman

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    I think people here know I'm trustworthy. The person who is claiming this has DM'd me on Discord with a video of it in action, so I can confirm they're not lying about it.
    That being said they are also aware of what could happen if this got out, so they haven't posted it publicly anywhere. I believe they've also reported it to the devs.
     
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  8. 2Fast Racing

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    Hello!

    This will be a lengthy and thorough message answering many of the questions asked here and addressing many concerns stated by many of you.

    Sometime in early 2019 we began learning the ropes of BeamNG modding and created our space 2FastRacing. Initially, our space was built to be a BeamMP based platform to host a primarily motorsports-based community focused on BeamMP races and events in order to bring the BeamNG community alive closer than ever. This has really gone well for us and has resulted in some great nights of events with the community. Since then we have evolved into more than just an event organizer by bringing the community a place to find more motorsports-inspired mods and a forum space to cover such subjects. Every day we are astounded by our growth and success thanks to all of you and look forward to our future. So to anyone in here that has had our back all the way through, I would like to say thank you.
    We do our best every day to keep our community free from toxic behavior and apply our rules religiously. As some of you don't know, we do not run ADS in any form on our website nor do we participate in paid sponsorships. We also do not charge for mods in any way. All costs related to 2FastRacing comes from out of pocket or from our amazing BeamMP Patreons. With that said, I have answered many of the questions & concerns posted here below. Please feel free to ask if you have any other questions and I will try and answer them promptly.

    QUESTIONS & ANSWERS:
    • Q: Are they safe? I don't know if it's safe or not.
    • A: All mods submitted must be checked by a qualified staff member of 2FastRacing prior to being publically released. This check involves looking for malicious files and scripts along with hidden NSFW content.
    • Q: Do we steal/re-upload other creators' work and claim it as our own?
    • A: We do not condone any such actions in our community. There are many accusations out there that we do but are almost always speculations and not anyone doing the research to get the facts.
    • Q: Do we earn money from users downloading mods?
    • A: Our website does not have any ADS nor do we participate in any paid sponsorships etc. So the answer is simply, no.
    • Q: Do our mods require you to download any installer files?
    • A: Downloads on our site simply download the mod .zip file directly. there is no redirects or installers involved.
    • Q: Are our mods or many mods on our platform "meshslaps"?
    • A: As the "mesh slapping" term has been used very broadly we do not agree with the meaning that has been put behind the term nowadays which is essentially a "bad mod" which would disgruntle new creators from learning the BeamNG platform. We accept all skill levels in our space and do not discredit users that use existing jbeam assets to create their own work with credit provided to the author of the custom jbeam work as necessary. Everybody has to start off somewhere.
    • Q: Do we allow others to upload stolen or re-uploaded content?
    • A: As stated before, all mods uploaded to our platform go through a check for malicious files. additionally, we do attempt to stop creators' work from being re-uploaded, leaked or stolen on our platform but cannot guarantee we catch them all. It is difficult determining what nodes & beams came from what mod sometimes so we count on you to help report these actions.
    I hope that this can clear some things up and we look forward to seeing you around.
     
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  9. CaptainZoll

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  10. Turbo49>

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    "cough" https://www.beamng.com/threads/refreshed-miata.54925/page-32#post-1382887 "cough"
     
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  11. rmfurm

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    Why are all your previous threads deleted? They seem to be just normal mods from the short descriptions still there, yet they have been removed. Did you delete it or the moderators?
     
  12. Softair

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    You cannot delete a thread yourself, so I think it's pretty obvious who deleted them.
     
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  13. Agent_Y

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    Probably they got removed because of stolen assets. I'm not making any claims or anything but it's kinda sus that they say that the speculations of them stealing mods are "almost always" speculations and they have several deleted mods on their profile.
     
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  14. Eskim

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    You forgot to answer one question that you seem to constantly dodge... -_-

    Do you use other people's work without permission?

    To get an answer regardless, yes. Yes you do. You seem to not care at all about others and/or their mods.
     
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  15. 2Fast Racing

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    There have been a few occasions that a community member pointed out to us that was not rightfully uploaded to our platform from other members and appropriate action was taken immediately. As I said, sometimes we cannot catch it all and we depend on the community reports to help us out.


    The jbeam released on our platform is edited jbeam of the existing outdated miata mod. Both jbeam flows look the same because both creators used the same method to fit the jbeam. The spike coming out the windshield is a camera ref node that most vanilla cars use.


    Due to the way some of the community has decided to perceive us, Every mod we have attempted to upload to the BeamNG platform goes through excessive scrutiny and tons of users digging as deep as they can to find just one small reason to have our mod taken down. This is the case for all the mod's we have tried to share here. Our Austrian Dragstrip map was reported and taken down for using a public Github script which the existing credits we're left in the script. the mod was taken down anyways without discussion from a BeamNG staff member for stealing content. The 53' Race Trailer was taken down for users reporting to BeamNG staff that we stole the mesh from a GTA modder but the original model comes from a THQ game.


    This was already answered in our post. We do not steal or allow stolen content from other creators on our platform. If you believe something is stolen then I ask you to please properly report it and we will gladly look into it.
     
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  16. Eskim

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    Again making excuses, you know you steal content and yet you deny it time and time again. How it's not obvious to you that you're using people's content without permission is absolutely mind blowing. Keep telling your lies then.
     
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  17. Softair

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    You are not supposed to put copyrighted models on the repo at all.
     
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  18. crashmaster

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    admitting it wasnt stolen from one place, but admitting it comes from somewhere else... i dont remember seeing the credits to that model in the repo page either. but memories arent perfect.
    you guys has been the shadyest beamng modding group ive ever seen so far tho.
    twisting every words into your favor to make it seem as if you didnt know what you were doing, yet clearly know what you are doing.

    if the code was so public and all should be good, then there should be no reason why the mod is no longer on the repo, that alone says something about the content you put out here.
    if the devs decided it didnt belong on the repo, maybe stop putting stuff that doesnt belong to you on the repo as if its all yours.

    but there is one thing i do want to say, since the release of the trailer that got taken down, i did see a few updates for it before it got taken down. it did make it better, its not as if you guys just throw a 1 minute meshslap into the wild, im not saying you put a lot of effort, but im not saying you arent putting any effort at all.
    ive been modding for long enough to know its not easy doing anything for this physics based game. i hate criticizing meshslaps simply due to the fact that most of the time some kids use that as a baseline to learn how to mod, but you guys have been modding for long enough to get over the meshslap phase and start doing actually good content. the potential seems there but hooooo boi. who knows what you guys are doing and why. time is limited for everyone, but its always up to you what content you decide to put online. we are in no hurry to get your mods, learn to jbeam, mod stuff the good way, get better over time and when stuff be looking decent release it. the trailer was being worked on and thats a good thing, it was starting to shape up really good. i got no clue why it was taken down until now.

    i got credits for all models ive used thats still on the repo, nothing got taken down until the huge copyright strike down when the repo started, but i was using codemasters dirt game models, so the takedowns was justified.

    your lies will get you nowhere. the few times i managed to grab a hold of the few mods yall made i regretted it instantly and deleted it right away.
    the singular time i tried to speak on discord about the jbeam i got cussed out and banned.
    to think i was about to propose to help you guys to actually get the jbeam done. ffs.
    there is already a shit ton of bs and forum drama going on about, the last thing this forum needs is your manipulation, crappy mods and bs stories.

    its sad because in the beginning of beammp i really liked 2FR, it was literally the best, but drama over drama keeps popping up cuz of whatever reason, of which you guys knows best.
    nowdays i just avoid 2FR alltogether. its not worth my time or sanity.

    from what i seen over the years on this forum, every single mod that is posted on this community is taken under the microscope because the forum is used to people stealing meshes. and they always end up finding the source of the content being used in a mod. its not just you.
    its absolutely no use lying about this stuff. and saying the forum has something against you... well there is a reason for that.
    until the day you can redeem yourself by actually making good stuff, without all the theft and the lying, things will be different, until that day happens. well deal with the drama you caused for yourself.

    just putting my few cents out there and venting as always.

    good luck and hope yall take care and stay safe.
    everyone on the forum i mean by that:)
     
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