Ibishu Hopper please add tunebale suspension parts, it is horrible to race

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  1. TroLLeX_

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    Not just that the car loves to flip, but it cant even do corner speeds like similiar cars can do. There is no suspension part that can be tuned to fix any of these issues. See for yourself
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    This is literally the best config that i could come up with regarding corner stability and as you can see it is bad
     
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  2. Turbo49>

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    It has leaf springs all around, of course it's gonna be bad on an asphalt track
     
  3. TroLLeX_

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    No it doesnt?

    You can even select a leaf spring
     
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    Oh ? Always thought it had. It's still double solid axles, it isn't made to go around a track.
     
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    It is actually perfect that it wants to flip over like that, it's physics.

    A Jeep with a high center of gravity will of course want to flip over like that, especially with slicks. I don't know the exact physics and math behind this, but since you got so much grip on your tires you will end up flipping instead of just spinning out. This is why drag cars are quite easy to flip.
    Some of the places you are going 100 km/h in a corner, in real life the same thing would happen with such car.
    Other places you are doing sharp and sudden turns, again perfect recipe for a high center of gravity vehicle to flip.

    It was never meant to race, it's a 4x4. Sure there is a track day config but that's far from any serious racing and more just a fun config than serious.

    Sorry if I am coming off a little harsh, but please research and question things before calling someones work horrible.

    But good job on demonstrating why it is quite difficult to find a race config Jeep or Samurai :)

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  6. Andryusha

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    It wasn't made for racing :)
     
  7. TroLLeX_

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    Yeah sure every high com vehicle will flip if driven like that. That statement would actually be true if we forget that wheel alignement and a suspension exists. But that does exists and that allows us some insane things. But of course i drove over the limit of this car and it flipped, but only to show how low this limit actually is rn with just the given parts and no option to tune. And id like to point out that i dont call someone work horrible, i just call the cars race ability horrible because it isnt possible to counteract against its issues with any tuning.

    Take the Roamer or the D-Series, both are high com vehicles likes the hopper. Based on your statement both should flip if driven like that.

    So this roamer is driven over its limit as you can often hear by the tire squeeks, the oversteer and the offset line. Now why didnt it flip? It is tuned not too. Take a high com vehicle for yourself, and try to build a race spec. Focus on wheel alignement and the suspension. You will find that the high com vehicles can take on other race cars quite easiely if properly tuned. Heck you can even take the old muscle cars like a bluebuck, barstow or moonhawk and make them keep up with other race cars (excluding the scintilla, that car is just insane).

    All it needs is the right parts and proper tuning. Now with the hopper that isnt possible because there isnt much partwise to tune. It just needs some race parts and then we will have a new race capable car.
     
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    The hopper is less heavy and wide though, so the race tires overwhelm it more and make it easier to flip. Maybe more race parts could help but jeeps like that are known to not drive well.
     
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    except the hopper has a way higher center of gravity then the roamer. and it has super grippy tires so understeer wont save it anyways from flipping. based on YOUR logic the pigeon shouldnt flip easy
     
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  10. TroLLeX_

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    That is definitly a fair point. The hopper wouldnt be able to take the corners like a roamer or d-series. But tuning could make it better then it is right now
     
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