How different cars perform in the same crash type

I used the Large Angle Tester and set it to 5 degrees (in Grid Small Pure) and drove cars over it at very high speeds (near top speed). In effect, it is a very shallow jump at very high speeds, so cars may or may not be seriously damaged, depending on design. Here's the results so far:

Gavril D15 Off Road - minimal damage (1% beams deformed, none broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared undamaged from outside - hit around 110 mph
1953 Burnside Special - minor damage (4% beams deformed, none broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared to have very minor damage - hit at 94 mph
Hirochi SBR4 - major damage (12% beams deformed, maybe 2% broken), vehicle still drivable, all rear windows as well as windshield shattered as well as significant bodywork damage - hit over 150 mph
1998 Ibishu Pessima - moderate damage (9% beams deformed, 1% broken), vehicle still drivable initially, appeared to have moderate damage - hit at 110 mph. Left rear door opened on impact. VEHICLE CAUGHT FIRE ON IMPACT
Civetta Bolide w/tires inflated to 100 psi - major damage (13% beams deformed, many broken), vehicle still drivable but damaged, major bodywork damage including jammed passenger door, both rear tires exploded - hit over 150 mph

In order of performance, I'd rate them D15 - Burnside - SBR4 - Bolide - Pessima. Before it caught fire, I had the Pessima pegged for a mediocre to poor performance - it probably would have ranked between the SBR4 and Bolide due to the door opening. But the fire means that the Pessima completely failed.

Have you ever done a scenario of comparing multiple cars in the same crash scenario?

 

More results:

Gavril Barstow 423ci - minor damage (7% beams deformed, few broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared to have minor damage including cracked windshield - hit around 125 mph
Gavril H15 Off Road - minimal damage (2% beams deformed, none broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared undamaged - hit at 106 mph
1989 Ibishu Pessima Custom - major damage (11% beams deformed, 2% broken), vehicle developed pull to right, appeared to have major front damage and some rear bumper damage - hit around 130 mph

Now it's D15 - H15 - Burnside - Barstow - '89 Pessima - SBR4 - Bolide - '98 Pessima. The off road van performed well as expected, although slightly worse than the truck. The van bounced up and down considerably on impact with the ground, but this did not appear to cause any significant damage. The Barstow performed acceptably, its more "spaced-out" design helped it. The Pessima performed poorly, as expected, although significantly better than the newer counterpart. No doors opened and there was no fire in any vehicle in this round.

 

Third round of testing:

Ibishu Covet - major damage (10% beams deformed, few broken), vehicle still drivable, damage to front bumper/grille area and rear end, hit at 106 mph
Gavril Roamer Off Road - minimal damage (2% beams deformed, none broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared undamaged, hit at 118 mph
Gavril Grand Marshal Custom - major damage (13% beams deformed, 6% broken), all 4 tires blew, major damage to body, hit at 152 mph. Left rear door opened on impact.
Ibishu Pessima Stanced - moderate damage (9% beams deformed, few broken), vehicle still drivable with difficulty, damage to body moderate and included shattered front and rear windshields, hit at 95 mph.
The very poor performance of the Grand Marshal was surprising, so it was re-tested at approximately the same speed. On the re-test, all doors stayed closed, but results were otherwise similar.

 

Fourth round of testing:

Ibishu 200BX - major damage (10% beams deformed, 1% broken), vehicle developed pull to right, appeared to have major front end damage, hit at 142 mph.
Hirochi Sunburst - SEVERE damage (19% beams deformed, 6% broken), vehicle completely immobile after test, rolled over 6 times causing severe damage to body, hit at 144 mph. Right rear door flew open during rollover.
Ibishu Pigeon - major damage (10% beams deformed, 1% broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared to have major front/roof damage, rolled over twice, hit at 81 mph. Both doors flew open on impact.
Gavril T-Series w/sleeper cab - minimal damage (<1% beams deformed, none broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared undamaged, hit at 88 mph.

The performance of the 200BX was marginal, and was similar to the older Pessima. The Pigeon's performance expected to be poor, and it was. The surprises were the Sunburst and the T-Series. The Sunburst was expected to be a poor performance after the SBR4 performance, but the rollover was not expected. The T-Series did extremely well; the vehicle's massive size probably helped it out.

 

Fifth round of testing. These are variants of previously tested vehicles. The non-off road versions of the trucks were tested; previously, only the off-road versions were tested.

Gavril Barstow Drag - major damage (14% beams deformed, 4% broken), vehicle difficult to drive, all tires except left rear popped, major damage to body, hit at 190 mph.
Gavril D15 Extended Cab - minimal damage (3% beams deformed, none broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared nearly undamaged, hit at 115 mph.
Gavril Roamer - minimal damage (3% beams deformed, none broken), vehicle still easily drivable, appeared nearly undamaged, hit at 115 mph.
Gavril H15 van - minor damage (4% beams deformed, few broken), appeared to have minor damage, hit at 110 mph. However, the vehicle would not turn after impact.
A retest of the van was done; similar results occurred, but the re-tested van would still turn. However, the front passenger tire came off on impact, leading to major handling problems.

The drag Barstow was expected to perform poorly, and did, likely due to the extreme speed of the test. The non-off road truck and Roamer performed well, but slightly worse than their off-road variants; however, the off-road package made a big difference in the van's performance. The van also proved that outward appearances aren't everything; despite appearing to do well and the numbers looking good, the vehicle developed major driveability problems.

 

If you want to do test than do legitimate, like on 60 MPH for all vehicles.

 

The test is performed near or at each vehicle's top speed, so each vehicle is tested according to its performance. A vehicle is tested at 150 mph if it can go 150 mph, 100 if it can go 100, and so on.

 

Yeah but that's not legitimate. I mean If you for example get a car that goes 70 MPH max, and a car that has a top speed of 100 MPH and you crash test it like that, you would get compleetly different results. Doing these tests in the legitimate method is better and better compareable. Try crashing a barstow against a wall with 60 MPH and a other barstow crashing against a wall, the result will be different. Any ways by doing it the legitmate way you can better compare all of the cars.

 

real-life crash tests are performend at around 40 mph. crash-testing a car at speeds of over 100 mph is pretty useless since such a crash is more or less unsurvivable due to extreme g-forces.

 

Thanks for doing this King. Entertaining read to see the differences. I also like that you are doing this at near top speeds, it's creative to be different. This is BeamNG Drive after all, it's fun to put a test to the extremes.

As for you other posters wanting the test to be more legitimate, why is that so important? King did this for fun, it doesn't have to be realistic.

 

You really have to do a 60mph just as an idea you know all the vehicles can hit that speed but with those speeds from 88mph to 190mph using the words of Ron Dennis in 1990 before the 1990 F1 season started... "Where is the consistency!!" your speeds are all over the shop so the forces applied are different per impact I know that!

 

This was a jump off of a 5 degree ramp that was probably about 3-4 feet high at its end. But if it were hitting a wall, it would be unsurvivable at those speeds. The damage occurred upon impact with the ramp and impact with the ground. The higher the speed or steeper the ramp, the more severe the test is. These tests were done near each vehicle's top speed to see how each vehicle would cope with a jump and hard landing. Another round of tests, with the ramp at 8 degrees instead of 5, will be conducted. The speed for this test will be 100 mph for all vehicles except for those that can't reach 100 will be tested at top speed. They should be doing at least 80 anyway so it won't be too big of a discrepancy.

Scoring will be out of 20 points for damage (numeric), visual damage, drivability and survivability. If most vehicles perform very poorly, another less severe round of testing will be conducted. Stars will be given, however no vehicle can get more stars than the number of survivability points.

Damage (numeric)
5 - less than 5% beams deformed AND none broken
4 - less than 8% beams deformed AND <0.5% broken
3 - less than 10% beams deformed AND <2.0% broken
2 - less than 15% beams deformed AND <4.0% broken
0 - over 15% beams deformed OR >4.0% broken

Damage (visual)
5 - no visible major damage
4 - minor damage to body, no windows broken
3 - bodywork damage, only windshield may be broken but other windows must be intact
2 - major damage to body; some windows broken, 1-2 tires deflated, etc, damage still confined to front and rear of car
0 - major damage to body, most windows broken, any major damage to roof or sides

Drivability
5 - drives normally
4 - drives with some impairment
3 - major impairment such as vehicle pulls to side; obvious suspension damage
2 - mobile with difficulty
0 - completely immobilized

Survivability
5 - no issues of safety
4 - window breakage, but no other issues
3 - violent skidding (near flip)
2 - rollover without major additional damage, door opening
0 - fire, multiple turn rollover, obvious compromise of occupant compartment

 

70mph head on collison
Barstow: Heavy front end damage
D15: Medium front end damage
Roamer: flew in the air and tip over. Heavy supension damage, light roof and front damage.
Covet: Became a box
Grand Marshal: Brutal front end damage

 

The following tests were done in a similar manner as the first ramp tests, but were all done at a consistent speed of 100 mph (97-103 mph), except for the T-Series and the Pigeon which could not reach this speed. The ramp was placed at an 8 degree angle, so the initial impact to the suspension and bottoming out on landing were more severe than in the 5 degree angle test. The grading criteria are in post #12 in this thread.

18-20 pts: 5 stars / 14-17 pts: 4 stars / 11-13 pts: 3 stars / 8-10 pts: 2 stars / 0-7 pts: 1 star

Legend: Damage (numeric) pts / Damage (visual) pts / Drivability pts / Survivability pts

Gavril D15 Off Road: 5 / 4 / 5 / 5 - 19 points total (5 stars).
4.67% beams deformed / 0.21% beams broken - Hit ramp at 98 mph
This vehicle was the poster child for good performance. It still drove perfectly and the only damage was slightly creased front fenders.

Burnside Special: 3 / 3 / 3 / 4 - 13 points total (3 stars)
9.32% beams deformed / 0.28% beams broken - Hit ramp at 100 mph
This vehicle was a decent performer, but not the best. There was bodywork damage and suspension damage. The trunk opened on impact with the ground.

Hirochi SBR4 - 2 / 3 / 3 / 5 - 13 points total (3 stars)
9.48% beams deformed / 2.71% beams broken - Hit ramp at 100 mph
No safety issues were noted, but the vehicle was significantly damaged and drivability was compromised with suspension damage.

1997 Ibishu Pessima - 2 / 2 / 3 / 0 - 7 points total (1 star)
11.25% beams deformed / 1.10% beams broken - Hit ramp at 99 mph
Major damage was noted to the car, including broken front side windows. The vehicle was drivable, but had suffered suspension damage. Shortly after the test, the vehicle caught fire in the engine area. The fire was severe, and the car was fully involved within two minutes.

Civetta Bolide - 2 / 2 / 2 / 4 - 10 points total (2 stars)
13.52% beams deformed / 0.70% beams broken - Hit ramp at 103 mph
The occupant compartment suffered only minor damage, with some broken windows. The front and rear areas of the car suffered major damage; the rear tires exploded on impact with the ground. The vehicle's mobility was severely damaged.

Gavril Barstow - 2 / 2 / 4 / 4 - 12 points total (3 stars)
11.55% beams deformed / 0.45% beams broken - Hit ramp at 101 mph
The vehicle sustained major damage, but surprisingly was still mostly drivable with only minor impairment.

Gavril H15 Off Road Van - 4 / 4 / 4 / 3 - 15 points total (3 stars due to safety concern)
5.66% beams deformed / 0.20% beams broken - Hit ramp at 101 mph
Overall damage was relatively minor, with some bodywork damage and minor impairment to drivability. However, upon landing with on the ground, the van violently skidded and nearly rolled onto its right side, actually reaching a 60 degree angle before popping back onto its wheels.

1989 Ibishu Pessima - 2 / 2 / 3 / 4 - 11 points total (3 stars)
10.74% beams deformed / 0.83% beams broken - Hit ramp at 99 mph
Major bodywork damage, suspension damage, some broken windows.

Ibishu Covet - 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 - 14 points total (4 stars)
10.40% beams deformed / 0.40% beams broken - Hit ramp at 101 mph
The Covet proved itself surprisingly strong in this test, still driving surprisingly normally. The damage did not look as bad as figures suggest.

Gavril Roamer Off Road - 5 / 4 / 5 / 5 - 19 points total (5 stars)
4.65% beams deformed / 0.19% beams broken - Hit ramp at 101 mph
By a razor-thin margin, a better performer than the off-road D15. Once again, slightly creased front fenders were the only evidence of impact.

Gavril Grand Marshal - 3 / 2 / 2 / 5 - 12 points total (3 stars)
9.02% beams deformed / 0.18% beams broken - Hit ramp at 103 mph
Despite the relatively low damage numbers, this one was damaged rather severely, both visually and mechanically. The vehicle would move only with considerable difficulty.

1997 Ibishu Pessima Stanced - 2 / 2 / 3 / 5 - 12 points total (3 stars)
12.56% beams deformed / 0.98% beams broken - Hit ramp at 97 mph
Surprisingly, the stanced Pessima performed much better than the standard version. Performances were similar, but the stanced model did not have any shattered windows and crucially did not catch fire.

Ibishu 200BX - 2 / 3 / 2 / 3 - 10 points total (2 stars)
12.01% beams deformed / 0.78% beams broken - Hit ramp at 101 mph
This vehicle sustained rather severe damage, and moved only with considerable difficulty. The body structure deformed, masking much of the damage. The driver door unlatched, but stayed (weakly) closed.

Hirochi Sunburst - 2 / 2 / 2 / 2 - 8 points total (2 stars)
10.07% beams deformed / 3.79% beams broken - Hit ramp at 102 mph
This vehicle was a 2 star, but barely earned that 2nd star. The vehicle suffered major damage, primarily to the front and rear, and moved only with difficulty. Worse, the vehicle barrel rolled once upon impact with the ground. Although there was minimal roof contact in this particular rollover, it still shows a safety concern.

Gavril T-Series - 5 / 5 / 0 / 5 - 15 points total (4 stars)
2.94% beams deformed / 0.14% beams broken - Hit ramp at 91 mph
This appeared to be a textbook performance - no damage was visually apparent. The vehicle was immobilized by the impact and would not move.

Gavril Barstow Drag - 2 / 2 / 3 / 4 - 11 points total (3 stars)
13.22% beams deformed / 0.49% beams broken - Hit ramp at 103 mph
This vehicle received major damage, primarily to the front end, and some windows were broken. The vehicle suffered suspension damage but was drivable.

Bruckell Moonhawk - 0 / 2 / 4 / 5 - 11 points total (3 stars)
16.81% beams deformed / 0.88% beams broken - Hit ramp at 99 mph
Despite severe damage, primarily to the front end, the vehicle still drove mostly normally.

Gavril D15 (standard model) - 3 / 4 / 3 / 5 - 15 points total (4 stars)
8.48% beams deformed / 0.19% beams broken - Hit ramp at 101 mph
The non-off road D15 did worse than its off road version, but the differences were moderate.

Gavril Roamer (standard model) - 2 / 3 / 3 / 4 - 12 points total (3 stars)
11.78% beams deformed / 0.41% beams broken - Hit ramp at 99 mph
The non-off road Roamer performed far worse than its off-road version, sustaining major damage and coming out with poor drivability.

Gavril H15 Van (standard model) - 3 / 3 / 2 / 3 - 11 points total (3 stars)
9.96% beams deformed / 0.09% beams broken - Hit ramp at 100 mph
The passenger wheel broke off and the vehicle sustained far worse damage than the off-road version; it was literally one deformed beam from being a 2 star overall. The violent skidding seen in the off-road version repeated itself.

Ibishu Pigeon - 2 / 0 / 0 / 0 - 2 points total (1 star)
9.68% beams deformed / 3.98% beams broken - Hit ramp at 84 mph
This vehicle was literally one broken beam from getting no points whatsoever. The vehicle literally fell off the edge of the ramp and rolled over several times. Both doors opened during the rollover, and the entire vehicle sustained severe damage and was immobilized.

Bruckell Moonhawk Drag - 0 / 2 / 4 / 5 - 11 points total (3 stars)
15.12% beams deformed / 0.12% beams broken
Despite being a separate test from the non-drag Moonhawk, results were quite similar.

 

IMO fire should be a massive penalty to visual damage rather than Survivability unless the doors or roof bend in a way making the car hard to escape or the fire reaches the driver compartment quickly.