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Glass radiators

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by justin428, Mar 27, 2016.

  1. justin428

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    So the whole super fragile radiator thing.. any plans to fix it? If I look at the car funny, the radiator breaks. Then the car overheats. Then the engine dies. Then flames engulf the car. Kinda annoying and I can point to my own experiences in off-roading regular cars- radiators ARENT nearly that fragile.
     
  2. Dudeman

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    there is a bug that cause the radiator to get damaged when other parts of the car are damaged
    I presume this will be fixed next version
     
  3. wearyNATE15

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    Even the slightest dent in one can damage it, like in a supercar ripping the bumper off on a curb has a possibility or can damage it if its in the front in the bumper, like on here. Or damage the grille enough (wood post going thru, etc) it will damage it. But yeah, in the game they are a little TOO fragile.
     
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    Next update will have a tad more resistant radiators (aswell better tuning for some cars that tends to overheat easily).
    Everything still in the 'realism' range. Radiators are sensible parts.


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  5. Dudeman

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    the vid with the jeep could be also useful for if someone says the cars driveline breaks too easy
    (the jeeps driveline breaks after the jump)
     
  6. justin428

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    Makes me appreciate how much better the game was 10 updates ago.

    Where does it stop? Oil changes? Gas stations? Will we need to pay the car insurance before we drive? You laugh but at this rate....
     
  7. lukerules117

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    ...I feel like the insurance rate for the average BeamNG driver would be a bit high with how much we crash our cars...
     
  8. randomshortguy

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    Yeah, forward progress, increased realism in a game focused on realism, and more features suck!

    /s

    as it stands now, engines basically don't ever overheat unless you intentionally abuse them (or you're driving one of a small group of cars with bugged rads that overheat too easily) and radiators are going to be stronger in the next update. I don't see how this could be a problem, and I don't understand how you want to go back ten versions. You bought BeamNG expecting updates to add features and realism, now you don't like them?
     
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  9. wearyNATE15

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    The game is so much better now than it was 10 updates ago. And I think we should have to do atleast a little bit of maintnence on our vehicles (when damaged, tires poped, engine damaged, etc)
     
  10. lukerules117

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    Honestly I'd prefer as much vehicle maintenance as possible(without the cars being too unrealistically high maintenance) and once career mode gets added I'd like the cost for replacement parts very high especially for vehicles like the burnside, barstow, moonhawk and bolide or other classic cars that are added.
     
  11. wearyNATE15

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    Career mode? No such thing. Plus i dont want TOO much mantnence, its a soft body physics game! I would like some if you want to, but its not needed, since its a game ment for crashing
     
  12. lukerules117

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    Career mode was a promised feature since early on in the development and they still seem like they want to implement it... and IIRC there is even a button in the menu for it, it's a driving game, which is why they spend more time making the tires realistic than they spend trying to make it look pretty like most modern game companies do, most of the things they make are for the driving aspects, not the crashing, and it isn't like they would get rid of freeroam/sandbox if they implemented maintenance.
     
  13. wearyNATE15

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    Show me a picture of career mode on the menu
     
  14. SixSixSevenSeven

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    its greyed out right next to freeplay and scenarios...
     
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  15. Dudeman

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    "its a game ment for crashing'
    No, this game aims to bee the most realistic (and fun) car game ever
    take a look on the beamng youtube channel, they made a video in vehicle handling I think you should see
     
  16. justin428

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    "most realistic and fun" There lies the problem.

    Realism isn't fun after a certain point. That's called reality and as they say, reality bites!

    This game needs to decide where EXACTLY to focus its attention. Either on crash physics or realism down to paying insurance and oil changes. Seems to me this was meant to be a soft body physics crashing game so that's where the focus needs to be. I think the devs are getting WAAAY too distracted (ie: thermal details that really don't matter) and off track. The train has already derailed. Will they correct it? Time will tell.
     
  17. Dudeman

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    it has been stated before that his game aims to be perfect and also aims to be realistic (check the "about us" at the bottom of the page) so how are the devs getting distracted?
     
  18. James Smith

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    I think that The game needs some parts that can use the physics engine in order to realistically solve the problems of radiator damage and overheating, just like in real life. In order to solve problems of radiator damage and overheating when doing real off-roading, people make modified off-road rigs with reinforced radiators and hyper-efficient cooling systems. Now that Beamng. Drive has more advanced thermal simulation, I believe it is necessary to add some parts that can simulate real world performance modifications and durability improvements.
     
  19. lukerules117

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    yep, I feel like there should be some kind of super heavy duty radiators that are positioned in a way that would cause them to not even get touched in most rolls and bumps that might happen in offroading, at least for the vanster, roamer and d-series, so that only high G crashes would damage it
    Why can't it have realistic crash physics and have the rest of the game realistic too? I(and many others) have been wanting for a game with a good career mode, good handling and a good DAMAGE model(not just crash physics, also tyre wear, engine damage, engine temperature, handling after damaged(beamNG is the only game I can think of where wheels can get misaligned from crashes or hard driving and it drives like it should afterwards, driving safely to minimize damage and part repair costs, and high part repair costs, and tuning, and possibly upkeep. SLRR is one of the only other games even similar to what they want beamNG to be, and the thermals will probably mater more after career mode.
     
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  20. Slammington

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    There's your problem. This isn't a crashing game at all. It's a physics simulator, that focuses on cars aiming for reallism in all departments, such as damage, handling, and all that good stuff.
    If you see this as just a crash game, you're horribly underestimating the ammount of work that goes into everything, not to mention massively insulting the devs.
     
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