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Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.
Yeah, I know.
Parts are very hard to get for them. We had one at work last year that was wrecked. There was one part, don’t remember what it was but we couldn’t find one anywhere. Our regular parts suppliers couldn’t get it, couldn’t find one in a junkyard. We eventually found a place in California that had one. They said that once the Suzuki parts are gone from the U.S., they’re gone for good.
It's gonna be the Veloster Turbo. Seller dropped his price to $6,700, and said he'd meet me again to try to figure out where the oil leak was. Upon squeezing myself under the bumper (it's fairly low to the ground) to get a complete view, I determined that the cause of the leak was dealer mechanic not completely tightening drain plug, and thenceforth told him I'd buy it for his asking price if he'd not sell it out from under me before I could get hold of my loan officer on Monday. He was fine with that. Looks like I can stop road biking my mother's life up!
There was a very tempting V6 Tiburon as well, chipped so it should have had about 205 horsepower. The exhaust note was so melodious, I wish I could have bought it on the spot, but the owner wanted way too much for it and also tried to tell me it had new tires (they were down to the bars). Also the steering wheel had a small but significant amount of play before it "engaged" and started turning the front wheels, which could even make the steering wheel feel impelled to wobble on rutted roads, and I knew I'd have neither the time nor the inclination to chase down that problem; if it was just outer tie rod ends, I've replaced those on the Escort and could probably do it on the Tiburon, but if not, then it would just keep driving me nuts and never getting solved. I think I've mentioned before that the Tiburon is one of my favorite cars (I do like my six-shooters, for sure), and I loved the sound of it, so it hurt to leave this one behind.
I'd left the house genuinely intending to deal on the modded Neon, but the dealership was trying to charge thousands of dollars over book, to the point where over one source quoted a value less than half what the dealership was asking (the presence or absence of mods changed that value estimate by all of $0.00), and they refused to come down by even half of how far over they were. Instead they tried to snow me about it being "a classic" (lol), which meant it had started appreciating (lol) and couldn't be priced by the book (lol), tell me that it was the subject of a crosstown bidding war (lol) and they'd only outbid another dealership by $100 to get it (lol), all the crud. He tried to tell me that he "could give me a slight discount" but nothing like the $7500 I might have been barely almost willing to pay. What I said is "I like the car a lot but the value proposition just isn't there, I just can't justify spending that much on it". What I should have said was "no bank is going to loan that much money for that car, I can't magically materialize the extra cash when they come back and say so, and anyone else who would actually want that little cop magnet is probably going to be in exactly the same situation." What I wanted to say was this:
I guess I could have gone to check out that Dodge Stealth, but I was honestly getting tired of endlessly going to check out cars I liked except for one stupid little problem that the ad didn't mention, and I also didn't want to complicate my decision any more. I knew that if the Stealth was any good, I'd love it and never be satisfied with anything else, but at the same time, a credit ghost such as myself trying to get a car loan on a 29 year old sports car would probably get stuck with a 12 month loan at 80% interest, or nothing at all, even with a $4000 down payment on a $6750 car. So I'd have to figure out if I could parlay my way into a personal loan (which would still have a higher interest rate than a car loan on a 2013-or-newer car) and then use that to buy the Stealth, and I was honestly sick of the shopping process enough that I didn't feel like trying to figure that out... especially since the earliest I'd be able to ask about it is probably Monday, which would mean possibly letting the now-much-cheaper Veloster escape.
So, in the end, I had to do the sensible thing and choose the Veloster. I'm not unhappy with the choice at all and am sure I will enjoy driving it a lot more than I enjoyed driving that Escort for two and a half years (which was about two years longer than I'd originally planned on driving it).
Another Reason why i hate my country: they want to forbid Motorcyclists to drive on weekends and holidays but if you have a electric motorcycle you still can drive. Also all new Bikes will not be allowed to have a exhaust noise over 80db and they really wonder why active exhausts are on theyr way to be standard.
Well, given how many people are pissed off by bikes versus how many actually ride bikes....
The thing wich annoys me most about people that get annoyed by loud things is that most of them move there deliberatly. For example in a neighbouring village some people moved right next to the airfield and now complain to the police and the city to close the airfield because its too loud. Storys like this sadly are now commonplace. And this probably the same reason why they want to restrict loud motorcycles
How can you compare moving vehicles that aren't officially informed about to immobile objects that are marked on most maps?
Also, maybe loud objects are not sacred cows and can be closed down.
Don't make me say it.
I'm of the exact opposite opinion. When it comes to stationary facilities, we desperately need some kind of "here first" law whereby, if there is a noise-producing facility such as a racetrack, roller rink, airport, etc., and you move near to the facility after it's built, then your complaints about noise are invalid and will be ignored. Colorado already lost two racetracks after some genius decided to build houses next door, and one of the three currently operational in that state was built specifically to replace one of the other two.
Why should a facility be above the needs of people who actually live in this area?
If there is enough demand for change, it should happen.
Because the facility also is run by people, who have sunk large quantities of time, effort, and money into building, maintaining, and running it? Because those people don't deserve to be run out at the drop of a hat because someone decided to build houses right next door and someone else didn't bother to look at a map before they bought one?
Just look at Laguna Seca, where 63 years of racing history are now under threat because some greedy developer threw up a bunch of McMansions right nearby. The people bought the houses, then complained about the noise until the county enforced a 90dB noise limit on the track, making it one of the only tracks where top-level race cars have to run through mufflers. Then, suddenly, more and more dead-stock performance cars started failing the noise test (Z06, GT350, etc.) and the rich nimbies who'd moved in next door relented. Apparently it's no fun when you can't even drive your fancy new toy on the racetrack you moved in next to, because of your own complaints.
The fact that people put effort into it does not mean thar they have to be ruining everyone else's lives.
At a certain point it's better to get rid of the facility.
You're ruining the lives of the facility owners, and its users as well. Depending on where they are, it's quite possible that they already picked the location to be as far from potential complainers as possible, and once something like a racetrack or airport is built it can't really be moved. If you're moving, you have a responsibility to investigate the area before you move in, not after, and if you move in knowing that there is a noise producer nearby, then why do you think you should have any right to shut them down?
Im with Chuck here if youre so stupid to move next to something you know is loud then you shouldnt be allowed to complain. (Bit off topic with cars now) here we have alot of people that move from the city to the alps and complain that the cow bells are too loud and they now want that we abandon a really old Tradition just because they are to stupid to check out the area they want to live
i got my 1st car
Got the Jeep up to 14.6mpg after my 80 mile commute on the highway, a new personal record! I feel efficient!
Usually I see a ton of stupidity on my commute, but today was a new one. I was in the third lane and an absolutely gorgeous Jeep SRT WKII is next to me in the HOV lane. That Jeep illegally exits the HOV lane, jumps over 2 lanes to overtake me, then illegally re-enters the HOV lane. Which is moving slower than my lane, so I casually pass him again. This happens four times. Four. Why did that guy keep entering the HOV lane, I would love to know...
As for the preceding discussion... We use to have a ton of racetracks here, all got shut down due to people moving nearby and complaining. Now we are down to one that only has a couple events every season, which isn't a great business model. Same happens with the local railroad system, though obviously the railroad companies are free to ignore the complaints.
And population patterns change, requiring adjustments in local facilities.
My local race track has had issues with sound, as well as our location for autocross at the local airport. I will say though there is constant noise from cars through the day, with multiple cars on course at the same time. Apparently the tire squeal is the worst thing. And in this case the houses have been there longer than we have been autocrossing there. But at the same time, it's important for us to have a place to drive quickly and safely.
What are your opinions on these two?
Personally, I really like the exterior design of both. I'm still debating on the interior though...
I like the exterior design of the minivan. I'm not sure about the exterior of the other vehicle though.