Full-Time 4WD

Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by Plasmapwrdhorse, Oct 22, 2021.

  1. Plasmapwrdhorse

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    all the 4wd vehicles d-series, roamer, h-series, hopper, etc...... would really benefit from a fulltime 4wd option.
     
  2. CaptainZoll

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    in what way would they "really benefit"?
    all such vehicles came with disengagable transfer cases from the factory, removing the ability to disengage the front wheels seems pointless.
     
  3. Plasmapwrdhorse

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    realism since in reality lots of vehicles like these have fulltime 4wd and disengaging the front wheels is pretty pointless.
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  4. CaptainZoll

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    what specific similar vehicles actually had full-time 4wd?
     
  5. default0.0player

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    If you don't disengage the front wheel when driving on tarmac, the the front axle will be forced to turn at the same speed of the rear axle, making handling terrible and may damage the vehicle's drivetrain.
     
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    Sorry but Land Cruisers, Suzuki Jimny's, even similar irl cars to H-Series have 4x4 and not awd. It's realistic for cars like that to have 4x4.
    And disengaging front wheels is FAR from pointless as default0.0player pointed out.
     
  7. Plasmapwrdhorse

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    yeah thats the point of full time 4wd you don't have to disengage it and you're not going to destroy it by using it on dry pavement
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    awd and fulltime 4wd are not remotely the same thing, awd always has a single speed transfercase while fulltime 4wd is the same as part-time with a two speed transfercase except it can operate in all weather and terrain conditions.
     
  8. default0.0player

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    Then drive the Gavril Roamer V8 Roadsport.
     
  9. Plasmapwrdhorse

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    awd and fulltime 4wd are not remotely the same thing, awd always has a single speed transfercase while fulltime 4wd is the same as part-time except it can operate in all weather and terrain conditions.
    um no
     
  10. default0.0player

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    If your vehicle has 4 wheels, then AWD is 4WD, if your vehicle has 8 wheels, then 4WD is not AWD.
    Then what?:confused:
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    OK I get it, you want a vehicle that has low range AND it's transfercase can drive on tarmac in 4WD mode.

    Drive the Ibishu Blackfoot then.
     
  11. elpaloJDM

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    Tener 4x4 a tiempo completo NO es inútil. varios vehículos todoterreno traen sistemas Full-Time, junto con un bloqueo del diferencial central y una caja de cambios reductora. por ejemplo, Toyota Land CruiserJ80-presente, Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ / WK / WK2 / WL (1999, al mismo tiempo que el roamer y los otros vehículos Gravil que propone), Toyota 4runner, incluso el Jeep Wrangler JL tiene una caja de transferencia opcional disponible con 4wd a tiempo completo. Entonces, este sistema existe y ha existido durante bastante tiempo. Además, mejora la estabilidad, ya que al contar con un diferencial central, el sistema funciona como el de un vehículo convencional, mejorando la estabilidad, reduciendo el sobreviraje.
     
  12. CaptainZoll

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    no, he literally just wants a 4wd (no middle diff) truck which you can't disengage the front wheels on.

    full-time 4WD only ever existed for the sake of simplicity and marginally more durability in the early days, because you don't have this fiddly chain driven transfer case thing which can break, just a fixed in place sprocket running straight to a shaft that goes to the front and back.
    but since proper transfer cases became commonplace around the 70s, there is no practical benefit whatsoever to being full-time 4wd.
    (realistically, being able to disengage not only improves on-road handling, but also reduces the general drivetrain friction and wear on parts that don't need to be spinning at highway speeds)

    if there was a 4wd converted 50s pickup, or some WWII era thing, or maybe even a severe duty offroad variant of the semi, such a drivetrain might make sense, but with the vehicles we presently have, I can't see it ever being added.
     
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    Hmmm, most of the IRL equivalents of the listed were indeed only available with the OG part-time 4WD design, but the Roamer's equivalents were among the first mainstream consumer vehicles optionable with a driver selectable electronically controlled clutch coupling (instead of a permanently driven geared differential or viscous coupling)

    GM and Ford brand theirs as "AutoTrac" and "ControlTrac" respectively.

    The initial 90's versions provided the freedom of choosing a full-time variable AWD mode in addition to 2WD (rear drive) and pseudo-locked 50-50 4WD modes.

    Hilariously enough, these old Ford and GM SUVs thus essentially had a M3/4/5 or AMG-63S style drift mode before it was hip, or perhaps more accurately, a let's-crash-and/or-rollover mode.
     
  14. Plasmapwrdhorse

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    all of the so called "AWD" systems used though the 90's and even today that have a two speed transfercase are fulltime 4wd hell my truck has get the system. in the 90s when awd was really becoming more common people were getting confused between awd and F/T 4wd so manufacture's just started calling it 'awd' but fundamentally the systems haven't changed much since the 80s just better computer control and more reliability. there's literally a full-time 4wd mod right now and a automatic lockers mod right now, im just saying that maybe they should be integrated into the base game.
     
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  16. Dr. Death

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    Im confused about the technical details about how a full time 4WD would work. How would you be able to steer it without having loss of grip on the front tires? Although i guess this would make sense if a Willys MB gets added.
     
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