General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    The windows
     
  2. youdidwhat!!

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    hmm maybe but would it not say window somewhere tho? cause the code literally says "sporadic defective" nothing more dosent even bring up P//// code
     
  3. General S'mores

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    Thought I would share this video:

    (Note: Like he said in the description, he does love the i8, but he's just pointing out it's flaws.)
     
  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Onboard diagnostics are rarely advanced enough for that. Your fault lies in the comfort modules, the comfort modules control windows. Your windows are faulty. Sporadic fault is one it can't currently see as a fault, but has occurred a few times in the past. Likely, whenever you operate your windows. The automotive department here at work agree that's probably your first place to look
     
  5. youdidwhat!!

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    thank you , ill try to fix them , once I get the bloody thing to run haha I hate german cars now , too much electrical stuff to go wrong I want my pug 205 back XD just whack that and every issue was fixed lol
     
  6. SixSixSevenSeven

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    I dunno. Electrical seems piss easy to me, maybe I'm biased, I do work for a company producing gear for automotive diagnostics after all
     
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  7. youdidwhat!!

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    I suck at diagnosis , especially on electrical , I much prefer carbs and distributors , I can actually fix that stuff lol
     
  8. bhorton

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    So... after 3 months of trying to fix the Nissan Cube, I've given up. Going to Scrap it, and get something that actually works.
     
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    Ever wanted to get a less than 10 year old accident-free luxury car with known history and sub-200000 km real mileage for just 1300€? Well, your time is now!
     
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  10. General S'mores

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    There's now a leaked image of what the X7 is likely gonna look like in it's production form.
     
  11. ehh.

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    hmm... it looks... odd...
     
  12. Potato

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    Drove a miserable 2019 Jeep Cherokee with the 2.4 i4. Thing was slow and...miserable. 9 speed transmission was about the most sluggish and unresponsive non-cvt I've driven.
    Thats the first '19 I've driven that I know of. I noticed it was facelifted from the older, sinfully ugly new-cherokee models, but I figured it was done in 18. I haven't really paid much attention to them. I did notice it had 4000 miles though.
     
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    Mmmmm

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    I love this shot
     
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  14. General S'mores

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    The Jeep Wrangler (and maybe the Grand Cherokee) are the only cars from Jeep currently that still look good. The new Cherokee still looks like ass.
     
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  15. Potato

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    Wranglers are cool but are objectively awful cars. NVH is awful. Rock hard suspension, underpowered v6, wind noise, etc. I haven't gotten a chance to drive one of the redesigned ones yet, but I like how they look.
    The Grand Cherokee is a decent car. They're nice and drive well enough. The '19 Cherokee still sucks and is still ugly.
    For some reason I don't mind the Patriot. I think they're kinda neat little cars. Besides the ones with CVTs, which are miserable shitboxes by default. We don't have a whole lot of those floating around at [large American car rental company] anymore though, '17 was the last year for them.
     
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  16. MotherTrucker02

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    Supposedly the new Wrangler feels and drives much more like a real car, not a tin can on wheels. I haven't actually gotten the chance to drive/ride in one though, only a JK with an AEV lift and they definitely are harsh and unrefined. Not a bad thing for the people who only use it offroad but as an everyday vehicle our FJ80 is far more comfortable and $30,000-$40,000 cheaper. I will be excited though when the diesel option comes out for the JL and I'm really hopeful they'll offer it with the 6spd manual.
     
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  17. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Hmm. Why do so many people manage to fuck up compression testing engines. Like it's not hard at all
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    Just put the gauge in, crank, where does needle go. Easy.

    Instead, just seen YouTube video of an actual mechanic sat there cranking the engine for about 20 seconds trying to get the needle up, it finally gets there, he passes it. No, if it's taking 20 seconds to get a reading, you don't have pressure. It's not hard. If you have pressure, you will get a reading within 1 full Revolution of crank shaft, and as you aren't always aware of crank position in advance, giving it 2 cranks can't hurt. Idiots, idiots everywhere
     
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  18. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    I was thinking and I realized that in recent times there always seems to be some kind of magical "calm before the storm" time where everything seems wonderful right before it all goes down the flusher. These times are then well-remembered afterwards, including (maybe even especially) by people who weren't even alive to see it, even though the seeds of destruction were planted therein.

    1920s: "The war is over and the economy is roaring and this new thing called the 'automobile' is really coming into its own, and alcohol is now constitutionally banned but that doesn't matter because it's easy enough to get anyway! Pay no attention to that new "Federal Reserve" thing jerking the economy around recklessly, I'm sure that won't cause any kind of major disruptions... oops! Kaboom goes the economy!" And then came FDR and his massive pile of government interventions, the ghosts of which still haunt this country today.

    1950s-1960s: "The war is over and the economy is roaring and we're building all these fast flashy new cars and drag racing and we're gonna kick the commies out of Vietnam and then beat them to the moon on top of it!" And then suddenly hippies and drugs and riots and blah blah blah blah blah (a lot of our current problems started in this era).

    1980s-1990s-sort-of-2000s: "The malaise is over, it's morning again in America, computers are going to change the world for the better and drag everyone out of the mire of poverty!" And then suddenly bubble crashes everywhere and technology becomes a disease and gas prices fly into the stratosphere and we end up with the most destructive president in US history.

    Really, it's the same pattern over and over. Times grow flush, people fall asleep at the wheel, morals start to degrade (such as the increasingly casual treatment of... certain things, or the ascendant drug culture, through the 60s into the 70s), and then, right when everyone thinks the prosperity will last forever, the bottom falls out.

    How is this car-related?

    I now believe that the current wave of JDM enthusiasm, that I like to rage so much about, may be the last wave of true car culture we'll ever see.

    It's definitely got some life left in it, assuming that it doesn't get legislated out of existence along with all liquid-fueled automobiles at some point. But if it's allowed to exist for long enough, it will eventually get to where muscle cars and hot rods are now - Supras and Skylines being driven or trailered to stale cruise nights by wrinkly old men, or traded back and forth at increasingly stupid prices while the cameras roll. Perhaps a few younger holdouts who grew up in the middle of nowhere or were enchanted by their parents' and grandparents' stories as children will try to keep the flame alive, and do an uncertain job of it. Once it gets to that point, however, the battery-electric hype men will probably have taken over the mainstream... and after that comes the Shiny Happy Googlepods, and I can't imagine much of any kind of culture forming around those.

    Already, we're picking the bones of days gone by. People born in the 1990s and 2000s, such as myself, have started to see the 1980s and 1990s as "peak car", mainly because after that the regulations got insane, high technology went from magical to cancerous, and sanctioned racing became a circus without any laughs. Many cars seem to carry just as much cachet within the tuning community now as they did 10-15 years ago (if not more, now that "rice" has faded into the background), and whatever came after them, with a few exceptions, might as well not exist. It's sort of like what happened to muscle cars in the 70s and 80s, except instead of becoming gutless, downsized disco cruisers, they've bloated into elephantine caricatures of their former selves, big on power but also big on unnecessary features and just plain big in terms of physical dimensions too.

    When I complain about the bloat, complication, and feature creep of modern cars, especially in low-line models, I'm often met with something along the lines of "it's just a daily driver, it needs to be quiet, comfortable, and fuel-efficient more than it needs to be fast, agile, and tunable." I may have even had someone on this forum tell me that ordinary cars should be boring! The thing with that is, many of the quick, agile, tunable cars now popular with enthusiasts started as boring daily drivers. The Honda Civics of the 1990s and 2000s were designed as economy cars first. Those cars are now dwindling in number, and they aren't always being succeeded. Newer Hondas may have a tuning scene, not sure, but they are absolutely succumbing to bloat and creeping featurism just like everything else. Ford ran a few (also bloated) ST and RS and SHO specials for a while, but are now pulling out of the North American passenger car market, with the singular exception of the Mustang, to focus on building more ugly crossovers. Toyota is building the GT86 (with a freakin' secret handshake to turn the stability control off, from what I've heard), is about to build a new Supra (with no manual transmission), and seems determined to turn their back on most of the rest of their sporting history (video game licensing shenanigans, complete discontinuation of TRD superchargers). Nissan's R35 GT-R was briefly cool but seems to have lost its luster, while their Z34 is getting very long in the tooth by modern standards and has no planned replacement that I know of. Mazda still continues, and even seems to have increased, its dedication to dynamic finesse, but with the exception of the Miata it seems no one really cares about them. BMW and Mercedes are going off the deep end trying to out-German themselves, in the process losing what made them, or at least BMW, great. So while midrange and high-end cars have certainly become more powerful over time, all cars have become much heavier and more complicated over the same time. And what are we going to be stuck with we finally run out of suitable base material from the 90s? The trash currently defiling new car showrooms, that's what.

    Of course most modern youth will be no help; they've been bombarded with sky-is-falling climate predictions and convinced that the best things in life are city-centric throughout their formative years, and in cases where parental contact is minimal (I'm guessing there are a lot of them), they have neither the historical context to debunk the former nor the wise guidance to go beyond the latter. Even when a car enthusiast manages to escape the education system of whatever country you live in, too many of the jobs that could allow a young person to afford a fast car without selling their soul to the bank are "somewhere else": another part of the country if you're lucky, another country entirely if you're not. Not to mention the cars themselves being so much more expensive than they once were.

    So I'm going to say it again: car people need to organize if the hobby is to survive. We have to debunk the myths that fuel rabid environmentalism and its grating "standards must constantly get tougher" mindset. We have to stand up against the nanny/ninny state that preys on people's fears to enact onerous regulations and invasive surveillance. We have to temper the EV/AV hype train riders who insist that converting to electric power or AI drivers will be all sunshine and lollipops forever. And we have to adopt a "seek and destroy" mindset when it comes to overbearing regulations, using whatever tools are available to ordinary people in our respective countries. As it is now, we're racing towards oblivion with our fingers stuffed in our ears, thinking that car culture will always survive somehow or that this is just the way things must go.
     
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  19. aljowen

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    Perhaps that is where your issue lies in regards to not being able to find well paid jobs.
    However, it is somewhat true that you need to move to an area with a higher population density in order to get a higher paid job, since they often rely on infrastructure that only exists in those areas. But there are technical companies that do exist in more rural areas.

    In 10 years time when they are cheap, I think modern cars such as the Focus RS will get a pretty good following. One would hope that people will be more technically inclined by that point in time and will be more capable of working on them at home as a result. Failing that you can always strip one out and remove most of the electronics. Kit Cars still exist though, not the cheapest vehicles in the world, but second hand will get you a very minimal vehicle, for not too rediculous of a price.

    All generations seem to like what they grow up with, so when they are old enough to be in the market and find they can now afford that, they will generally find some way to have fun with it.
     
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  20. General S'mores

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    Haven't really driven either the Grand Cherokee and Wrangler (the only SUV I've ever been in was a '99 Ford Explorer, but my aunt decided to switch it for a Altima Hybrid).

    Atleast there's some positives about a few of their other vehicles.
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    Also, seems like now the F-150 is pursuit-rated....
     
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