On Hold 1929 Gavril Truck Co. Model D Type 1 6 wheeled truck

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  1. ThatCarGuyDownTheStreet

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    Tbh, now I'm tempted to report your reply. Anyways, that is not constructive, and yeah this will probably take months to complete, just like every other start-from-scratch vehicle mod.
     
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  2. Johnny Wilson

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    Well I'm screwed. Thanks for letting me know how long it takes and I'll accept the report. But, is it possible for me to make my own version of the Model D in Automation and not make it a mod? If so, than thank lord. If not, than I'm going to be really unhappy.
     
  3. TheShipMaster

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    i dont think automation has that body style in the game
     
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  4. Sithhy™

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    Automation devs said there won't be any pre-1945 vehicles
     
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  5. Johnny Wilson

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    Okay then, I have nothing then. Nothing. But I can just make trucks from 1940 with different names.
     
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  6. Heidi Reichert

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    That sounds like a good idea. Do that until this mod comes out.
     
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  7. myfabi94

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    It immediately reminded me of the ZiS-5, and here is how boxy fenders can look good.


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    Early War ZiS-5


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    Pre War ZiS-5 with Metal Cab


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    And an even more Basic Late Version


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  8. myfabi94

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    A Crash Box and a Non-Synchronized Constant Meshbox are two different things though. A Crashbox is one where you actually move Cogs around, but in Cars and Trucks that was phased out in the early 1900s, because a Crashbox is virtually unshiftable on the Move.

    A 1930s Truck would have a Constant Mesh.

    In any case, Double Clutching is an Emergency and Learning Technique, with the Goal of learning to Float Gears.
    Truly Floating Gears on Flat, Open Road isn't hard, especially with Trucks, because their Gears are evenly Spaced, normally around a 1.2 Ratio in the Regular Gears and then you just learn two shift RPMs and Double the Amount of Speeds than you have Gears.

    So let's say your Engine is good up to 2000RPM and you set off in 1st, and reach 10kph, the Next Gear in a 1.2 Ratio Box is down at 1600RPM, so at 2000 you have your hand of the shifter, and as you get off the Throttle the Gear should slide out easily, almost Snap out, you put it to the Gate for 2nd, without force and wait for 1600RPM, and just smoothly slot it in, however, in the lower Gears it's normally Wise to just out a little Pressure on the Clutch, so it can slip a little to smoothen out the Mechanical Play in the Lower Gears.

    So now that you are in 2nd Gear you accelerate from 10 to 12 kph, and at 2000rpm Float in the Next Gear, and all the Way up the Gears and through the Ranges slowly but without Hesitance.
    Keep in the Back off your Head though: First Gear goes from 10 to 12, Second from 12 to 15, Third from 15 to 20 etc. and the rough RPM you need to shift into that Gear at any given Speed. So at 18kph you'll need about 1800rpm to get into Third Gear.


    Now, going Uphill is far more Difficult. As you can imagine, if you try to Set off in 1st, get to 2000, pull it out of Gear, but before the Engine has slowed to 1600, you are already almost stopped again, and cannot get 2nd Gear anymore, no matter how much Power you have, you are limited to your 1st or 2nd Gear until there is a flat Spot for you to Shift.

    That is why Truckers will get mad at People cutting them off Uphills, or driving unnecessarily slowly, because then they are in a World of Trouble. They have to quickly Get out of Gear, and as they are loosing Speed quickly, find one and get on the Power again, waiting for the Turbo to Spool up before they get below their Turbo Threshhold RPM.
    If they miss their Shift, well, they come to a Stop, and have to finnish a Hill they could have done at 40kph in 6th Gear, at 12kph in 1st Gear.
    That's why you never Cut Off Truckers on Hills.

    Going Downhill isn't any more fun. The Higher the Gear you are in, the less Engine Braking you have, so you want a Gear that provides enough Braking Power to maintain Control without mechanical Braking, but not so low that you are unnecessarily slow. And this may require Shifting Down iif suddenly the Hill gets steeper and you Start gaining Speed involuntarily. Now you may be revving at 2100RPM and rising. That requires a very quick shift into a lower Gear, which means Flooring it, to get to about 2600RPM in our Case, and then slotting that in, and that has to work first try, or you risk Brake Fading and a Crash.


    So yeah, a Non-Synchromesh requires a bit more forward thinking of yourself and other drivers and more knowledge of your vehicle, but it's not hard once you try for a little and know the machine.
     
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  9. Plymouth Superbird 1970

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    Crashbox is non syncro in general. The one you call a "crashbox" is "Sliding mesh transmission" which obviously was easily phased out.
     
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  10. atv_123

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    Crashbox is basically just a name most people toss around with non syncro transmissions... granted Wikipedia claims it is specifically sliding cog transmission. Is that actually correct? Ehhhhhhh.... I don't think so, because for SOOOO many people to call just a normal non syncro transmission a crash box while a crash box actually is a specific type seems rather unlikely to me.
     
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  11. TechMechanic

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    I thought this reminded me of something, it's the model truck by ugears. It looks almost exactly like this!
     
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  12. Spiicy

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    It will take a long time, modding is not easy
     
  13. ThatCarGuyDownTheStreet

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    We kinda addressed that post a while ago dude...
     
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  14. PSProductions Twin T

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    I think that you should make two models for the later model years. A truck with a single heavy-duty dually called the Gavril D series ("D" standing for "Dually") and one with two regular axles, called the T series ("T" for "Twin Axle")
     
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  15. youdidwhat!!

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    you could probly use miura's heron mod for a realistic non syncro gearbox and possibly some other bits off it (obvs ask him first if he is still around)
     
  16. myfabi94

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    The Heron was supremely Cool and one of my Favourites. I hope someone can get it back ingame again.
     
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  17. seven7kill1

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    I didn't tought yet to 30's trucks and you had a really good idea, would be awesome to see a truck soon in the game. Is it going to be optimal configuration off road? These trucks were used to run on gravel roads instead of asphalt, so should work well on gravel or mud roads.
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    Some men have a link with a fix with a working one, engine work differently from the old and realistic one, hit has a hot rod behavior with manual switching, but it's the Heron. So not bad one.
     
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  18. nuclear pillow

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    soooooooooooo any progress?
     
  19. Damiean Ron Lyons

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    progress will show up when it does.
     
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  20. Plymouth Superbird 1970

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    He's right. Everyone knows how much of a Dickwad I was when it came to progress on that AE86. After that I'm not making the same mistake of getting impatient.
     
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