Is this a good build?

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  1. Cardinal799

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    What about that monitor line issue? I am wondering if it is the card, or if my monitor can't handle it. If there is nothing I can do about it, it's completely fine. It really isn't that annoying, but I hope there is a way to fix it.
    Also, is there a link I can get to get an up-to-date driver for my CPU? I found one for my graphics card already. I installed the Catalyst control center thing, don't know if that helps.
     
  2. AirSKiller

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    About your monitor, it's quite common that black (or colored) lines appear on screens, if your warranty is over yet, you should easily get a replacement.
    It's not likely that the problem is your graphics card, is there anyway you can test the monitor on another computer?

    About the drivers, drivers for CPU's aren't really a thing... You can update your BIOS I guess, but it's really not needed in any way, don't worry :)
     
  3. Cardinal799

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    Mmmkay. I am just happy that I can run stuff at higher settings than abstract shapes instead of trees with better FPS. I will most likely overclock WHEN I know how to do it properly and safely (its an unlocked processor).
     
  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    if the flicker is only there when moving images are displayed, check you have V-Sync on, it could just be graphical tearing.

    Your average monitor is 60Hz. In this case fps and Hz are one and the same thing. If the graphics card is rendering at 120fps, the monitor will start drawing one frame, but by the time it gets half way through that frame the GPU has updated to a second frame and the monitor starts drawing the lower half of that. So the top half of the monitor display the top half of frame 1 and the bottom half of the monitor displays the bottom half of frame 2. If those 2 frames are not identical (ie the player is moving) then the end result is the top and bottom half being ever so slightly out of line, most easily visible from a fuzzy line going across the screen (which due to some other oddities with how displays and GPU's interact will not be a perfectly straight line btw). On RAGE if I turn anti aliasing off entirely and use a config hack to enable multicore mode (the game is triple threaded in multicore mode, but only coded to accept a quad core chip for some reason, I run triple core) I get 170-200fps, I have a 60Hz display, I end up with not 1 but 2 or 3 lines of tearing (depending on scene due to fluctuating FPS) and due to the FPS not being a multiple of the monitor refresh rate the point at which the monitor shifts from one frame to another varies so not only do I have these 2 or 3 lines on screen, THEY MOVE.

    V-Sync limits your framerate to a multiple of your monitors refresh rate, it also synchronises the points where it starts drawing the frame and the point the monitor starts drawing correctly. Yeah its framerate limiting but all tearing is gone.

    Added bonus, GPU to kick out 60FPS doesnt have to work as hard as nearly 200, doesnt get so warm.



    If its an actual solid line going across the screen that never changes regardless of what is being drawn, common case of LCD failure. Warranty claim.
     
  5. Jon

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    My advise on V-sync is to just not use it. Sure it prevents tearing, but it also gives you input lag/stuttering (bad movements in game/slower response). This is mostly a concern for FPS games tho, but i myself find it easier to just live with it (until the g-sync chips for monitors drops their prices).
     
  6. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Can't duplicate that myself on any game I have tried it with.

    Most games have fully independent update and render loops broken off into seperate threads as is. Should not make a flying rats ass of difference.
     
  7. Cardinal799

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    I never noticed a line with off-sync images. What I see is, well, imagine an old-ish TV. It isn't static, but there are tiny "waves" of lines going and moving up and down the screen. I will get 35 FPS on BeamNG when this happens, so it is not going to require VSync. I am 95% sure it is only on moving images.
    The monitor is easily 3-4 years old, and it is 1600x900.
    Also, I have heard quite a few times that this graphics card will easily max out BeamNG, PostFX and all, with 60FPS. I get about 25FPS on max with Dry Rock maxed, and I would get 40FPS on normal settings. I don't understand if I need to adjust some settings for the card itself to make it run that well.
     
  8. pf12351

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    Here is the list with prices. The total is all centercom.

    ASRock Z87-OC-FORMULA Intel Mainboard - LGA 1150 - Centercom - $329


    GIGABYTE GTX 780 TI PCIE 3.0 3GB 384BIT DDR5 - Centercom - $845


    KINGSTON DDR3 16GB (2X8GB) 1666MHZ CL10 HYPERX RAM (KHX16C10B1K2/16X) (BLUE) - Centercom - $198 - Amazon - $144


    Intel i7 4770k - Centercom (Hawthorn) -$407 - Amazon - $319


    Total - $1779


    TO BE ADDED:


    Windows 8 64-Bit
    800 Watt Power Supply
    Case
    3 extra TB Hard Disk, or, 500 gb Samsung SSD. Havent look at prices for SSD. 500 gb or 1 tb depending on price. (Already have 1 tb Hard disk @ home.)

    Distributed by Amazon.com
     
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  9. timbo01

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    800W are way too much. Your System will require about 400W.
    I recommend you this PSU "BeQuiet Pure Power L8 530W CM"
     
  10. Jon

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    Might be because i got a quite high sense on my mouse. It also depends if the game supports double buffering, it usually fix the problem then.
     
  11. Zappymouse

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    The 7xx series of Nvidia cards require 600w minimum. Where did you get 400w from?

    You're making a whole lotta white noise in this thread.
     
  12. Rand0mPsych0

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    Watch out if you do, Amazon has had a couple of bad reviews because people would buy, lets say a graphics card, send there old one back in the box to get the money and the card, then that old card would be sold again to someone thinking they were going to get a GTX 780,but end up getting a GTX 280 instead.


    If you don't end up using Amazon, use Newegg or NCIX instead, both trusted distributers that usually include games or discounts on there graphics cards.
     
  13. moosedks

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    also I've never been impressed with amazon packaging.
     
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  14. Harry_Ballz

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    Ofc they set the mininum requirement high, theres people using 1000w chinese PSU worth 10usd, that cant deliver close to 300w on +12v, just calculate with the TDP of the components, then you have some real value.

    For a system like he posted any 5xxW quality PSU is well enough, its all about how much the PSU can deliver on +12V rails.

    For example the "be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 550W" is of very good quality and will fit your system just perfectly.
    I use the 1200W version and im on an extremely OC'd SLI system with a 6 core processor, and im absolutely fine.
     
  15. SixSixSevenSeven

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    I have by a reseller. Ordered a keyboard for £8, went for free shipping option. Came in a box 3x1x0.5 feet. Opened that box and they had set up smaller cardboard strips and suspended a smaller box on tape from the inside of the large box almost as cushioning. Open the smaller box and you get the keyboard. £8 + free shipping to get what is a rather crude but somewhat well thought out set of packaging. Don't know what would have been wrong with just giving me the keyboard though :p


    Some resellers do use genuinely decent packaging. But the cardboard envelopes that amazon themself use, wtf is up with those? I had electronic components come in one of those for which one of those bubble envelopes would be far more suitable.
     
  16. Jon

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    like what?
     
  17. pf12351

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    Just found out Centrecom is complete crap, anyone know if PC Case Gear is any good? I have heard good things about them. I might use Ebay Aus. It is reliable compared to USA. No offense.
     
  18. pf12351

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    About an hour till I buy all the parts, and I just changed my motherboard. It is now a ASRock Z87 Extreme9 AC Motherboard.
     
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