AMD RYZEN

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  1. Josh

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    So going by reviews, how do you guys think a 1800X would cope with beam?
     
  2. Stian Aarskaug

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    Yes. For later. AMD does really well with power to performance. Their chips are really efficient. That was the thing keeping me from getting an AMD laptop last time, they were power hungry. Not anymore, though. And their performance is close to Intel IPC. So the choice is easy. With AMD APUs you get a proper GPU and not the terrible Intel iGPUs. So if you're in the market of a laptop, get one with a Ryzen APU.

    Good. Especially in the future.

    According to reviews 1 threaded performance is similar to my 4770k. And my 4770k does well in BeamNG. So do I think Ryzen will do good? Definitely.

    Looking ahead, BeamNG might run Vulkan in the future and that does well with multithreaded CPUs. Especially when the IPC of Ryzen is as good as it is.

    Yes, AMD's IPC isn't quite up there with Intel, but it's not far off. And most importantly (that many keep forgetting), it's always about the price. AMD can compete in the high-end sector performance-wise, unlike before when they only could compete in mid-end and struggled even doing that. Now, they are present in high-end and their price is bone breakingly good.

    Another thing. Last generation chipset were shit. With Ryzen, they also released a chipset that is not only on par with Intel, but compared to the price, it's better. They also offer all the features you'd want from a high-end chipset.


    This time around, AMD really did it. This is what we have been waiting for. What we all needed. What we hoped they did with Bulldozer. This time they didn't disappoint. They deserve success this generation for that. Considering Intel is more than 10x the size, it's really a fight between David and Goliath. Don't turn your back to AMD this time, when they actually did it.

    If you wondered why we'd seen shitty Intel releases for years now with almost no performance gains and horrid prices, lack of competition is the reason. Intel didn't need to do much, and so they didn't. AMD has done a lot more than they get credit for. I know which manufacturer I'll give my money too this time, to the one that deserve it.

    I didn't put my money in Bulldozer. I've bought Intel CPUs since 2008. I'm happy to say I'm not giving Intel any money this year.
     
  3. fufsgfen

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    It is really good, overclocking might help with single core performance too if you ever will run to that limit, it might be that next version of Beam has different load balancing, there are some optimizations but I guess we know that soon enough.

    If you don't use lot of vehicles you might get better single core performance with overclocked Intel, but then it is really up to what you do in BeamNG and also in a future single core performance might not have so much weight as currently.

    You might need really good GPU to get best performance though, because 1800X is best suited with many vehicles so you need GPU power especially if running HD resolution or higher to get most of the CPU.

    If you drive mostly with single vehicle, then you will have a lot of reserves as at least currently there is not much of difference with 4 or 8 threads, having 16 threads probably won't change things much.

    1800X was around 480 euros few days ago here, so based on BeamNG 0.8, if running single vehicle, you would get better performance for euros spent with 7700K as with overclock that is fastest in single core performance, but still slow, imo.(yeah, there is not really fast single core performer available in my opinion, even fastest is bit slow)
    Advances in single core performance have been so small that they have been perhaps holding back, I hope to see some real advances there, but there is always hope that software is where we start to see improvements.
     
  4. Josh

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    What is this, software and windows, bios bug? or the real deal @ 4.2 GHz after waking back up?
     
  5. fufsgfen

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    I would guess motherboard/bios, but if that results more overclock possible by putting computer to sleep, I would not complain.

    Update: Oh, he is running Gigabyte mobo, I have one too and they do give you some extra bugs for the price :)
     
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  6. Josh

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    Ran across this video.

     
  7. fufsgfen

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    That is cool stuff, certainly it has untapped potential. Hopefully later revisions of CPU and boards will allow that potential to be released. If viewpoints in that video hold true, then in BeamNG faster ram will be giving quite good performance boost.

    Waiting is best strategy with new hardware, later revisions are quite often better than first ones, same applies even to cars.
     
  8. Josh

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    Yup, waiting is the best strategy once the process matures the micro code improves, CPU reversions.

    etc

    Ryzen is looking good.
     
  9. Kampfansage

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    So should i take a 1700X and overclock it,or take a 1800x?
     
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