General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Good to know, is it a unibody or BoF?
     
  2. bussin.buses

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    Unibody with a front subframe
     
  3. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    So the Eagle is technically a materially different car, and not "just" a lifted Concord/Spirit. Thanks, Wikipedia and the internet in general are useless for that kind of information anymore.

    (Explanation: I'm still planning on becoming a modder at some point, and part of what I'm doing involves making a rather long list of cars to select randomly from at a later point. I had the AMC Gremlin/Spirit 70-83 and AMC Hornet/Concord 70-83 on the list separately at one point, but then I realized that the Eagle had Spirit-based short-wheelbase bodystyles, meaning that if the Eagle shared enough with its 2WD cousins, it would tie them all together to make an "AMC compacts 70-88" entry. But from what you're saying, it sounds like the Eagle's chassis is just different enough to not count.)
     
  4. bussin.buses

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    I mean I bet you could still make it work but yeah the Eagle is definitely the most different
     
  5. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    It's more a matter of, I wouldn't really want to. The Eagle, while it did see some legitimate rally use, is very slow stock and doesn't have a lot of aftermarket support that I know of, certainly not anymore. The Gremlin is the star of the show to me; at least it has the gimmick of being able to spec a factory V8 (and fit a much larger one) in a pretty light car. In fact I'll probably take the Hornet/Concord off my list to slim it down a little.

    In my mind, a different floorpan combined with a different nameplate makes it a completely different car, enough to have (in BeamNG) a completely different heading in the menu. The reason I asked is because the Eagle uses both SWB/Gremlin and LWB/Hornet bodies, so if the bodies and chassis were the same then it wouldn't have made sense to separate the 2WD models from the 4WD ones and each other. But from what you're saying, it sounds like the Eagle used materially different unibodies from its 2WD cousins, which is the question I was trying to answer.

    Not that it's likely to matter anyway, the list already has over 110 cars on it, many of which I'll probably struggle to find accurate information on. (If you know where to find structural blueprints, accurate chassis rigidity figures, and engine details on prototype racers and old concept cars, that would help.)
     
  6. bussin.buses

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    Well I have a ton of old factory brochures and a few service manuals and stuff but most of it is for Eagles and Jeeps. Although I have some post '78 Concord and Spirit brochures too
    I haven't really looked into blueprints and stuff like that
     
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  7. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Now I have yet another burning question... Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe. How different were they under the skin? Looking at them side-by-side almost everything looks identical except that the Vibe has a very prominent D-pillar whereas the Matrix has, at most, a very thin glass-covered one to create the appearance of a wraparound rear window. They couldn't do this without the chassis itself being different in that area, could they?

    And on top of which, how much did the chassis change in 2008 when it went from being based on the E130 Corolla to being based on the E140 Widebody version?
     
  8. trm7

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  9. combatwombat96

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    I have now mastered the art of down shifting (double clutching) non synchronized transmissions, in tractors no less, even in high range! Feels good to be the only that can do that at work

    On a more important note, I'm going to have to put the Valiant down soon, it requires too much rust work too keep safe to drive
     
  11. Koichiro Iketani

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    That's sick, I float gears in my Opel from time to time, it must be crazy having to do that for every gear change
     
  12. combatwombat96

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    It's not difficult, plus the cranes and tractor are normally kept in low range anyways, so shifting isn't needed much at all
     
  13. Kemono

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    Finally got around to adding the front and rear badges, now it looks normal again.
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    you ever just wake up and do the audi rite of passage
     
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    Thoughts?
     
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  16. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Does anyone know a good place to get maximally accurate blueprints of real cars? I'm about to force myself to try something
     
  17. Koichiro Iketani

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  18. trm7

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    Hot air intake final boss
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  19. trm7

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    eh thats fine
     
  20. trm7

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    immaculate 94 dodge stealth 5 speed came in at work(my phone camera sucks lol) i didnt get to work on it someone else did but yea. Dodge stealth is one of my favorite 90s cars. back when mitsubishi was in its prime

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