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should i upgrade my PC?

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by Ev0 g@ming, Feb 14, 2025.

  1. thekiller312

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    In my humble opinion. Id recommend you either a 7995WX if you're into productivity because it's a business class gpu that ain't that much optimised for gaming or a 9950X3D wich is more gaming focused. Intel rn's kinda ass. I'd wait for their new gen. For the gpu. Don't get a 5090. If you want THE gpu. Get a RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell. It's the even better 5090 using a the full gpu chip (the 5090 is a nerfed and weaker variant of the pro 6000) pair this gpu with one of the two cpu's i've mentioned with a board that fits the largest amount of ddr5 Vram and you're good to go.

    The pro 6000 blackwell is like 12k
    And the 7995WX around 10K
    With the remaining funds. You can get your board, storage, ram and stuff. For around 25k ish(i didn't do the precise math
    Or the 9950X3D is around 1k
    I hope i could help you a bit. It's up to you at the end of the day. But that's pretty much what i would go for if i was you.
     
  2. Tyler-98-W68

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    That's not a realistic upgrade for anyone.
    Yes a 5090 isn't needed.........in fact anything RTX 3090 and up in performance is enough GPU horsepower to run Beam at max settings at 4K. My 5070Ti can run any map ultra settings and everything maxed out without going below 60fps.

    a 7995WX is a stupid recommendation because people just can't admit that intel ISN"T ass right now. In fact their arrow lake CPU's are the best CPU's to use for beam because:
    1. The fastest single thread performance in a consumer CPU
    2. The Hybrid architecture with E-cores is fully exploited in Beam allowing for superior frame rates when lots of AI cars are spawned.

    Single thread performance is king, having a ton of cores doesn't do anything if they aren't fast enough.

    Arrow lake has the quickest single thread performance, and its even more interesting how the lowest end arrow lake CPU has better single thread performance than the 7995WX you linked.



    It would be a complete waste of money to buy any type of threadripper or epyc CPU for Beam.

    Even intel's lowest end Arrow Lake CPU (10 cores 10 threads) is better than a 16 core AMD X3D chip........because superior single thread performance

     
  3. Jefferson KANG

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    I want you to try 9950X3D not laptop 7945HX3D :)
    You looks like have lot of money to buy cpu, then buy just one 9950X3D you will find out why ppl calling intel 15 gen ass
    but yea 5090 is don't needed I agree with that
     
  4. Tyler-98-W68

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    I want you to try building and disputing any of my results, how come you can't? I probably have way more money than you but I'm not an AMD guy and i'm not going to buy a CPU that runs beam poorly vs what I already have, so why don't you?

    Why would I try a a 9950X3D when a low end intel chip with less cores can beat a chip that's nearly the same as a 9950X3D?
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    To put it more in perspective

    If a 7945HX3D is faster than a 7800X3D, but the 7945HX3D is slower than an Arrow Lake Ultra 5 225 with only 10 cores.....why should I even bother with any more X3D chips when the absolute best performance is from Arrow Lake.

    West Coast 80 cars

    285K 5070Ti



    over 30fps

    14900K 4090



    25fps

    7945HX3D RTX 5070



    ~20FPS

    7800X3D RTX 4090



    17fps

    All of my testing has shown the AMD chips not performing as well as the comparable intel chips

    I play with lots of AI cars, plain and simple and Arrow Lake to date is the fastest CPU for that.
     
  5. Jefferson KANG

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    yep, I got it, just show me what mod did you installed, also what settings are you on. I want try those on my personal 9800X3D
    also, 9800X3D is faster then 7950X3D

    EDIT: nevermind I think I got all the settings in vid just show me what mod you installed
     
  6. Tyler-98-W68

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    I don't have any mods installed.....Only Crashhard 2.0 and City of Los Injurus
     
  7. Jefferson KANG

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    what about traffic? are u using original beamng ui?
     
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  8. Tyler-98-W68

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    everything is original..........i add the traffic UI app and spawn traffic from that, its clearly shown in all my videos
     
  9. Wesley778899

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    just go with the 9950x3d it bumps up ur fps so much and it increases the 1%lows x3d cache works good in beam and it has 16 cores
    the threadripper might have more cores but wont improve ur 1%lows (never had it but i heard a 9950x3d is more stable)
    but its up to you and if you want to spend more just spend on a insane am5 mobo
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    the 7945hx3d is a mobile chips so ofcours it wont be as fast as a desktop pc the desktop version runs much smoother
     
  10. Tyler-98-W68

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    Except 3D cache doesn't do much of anything for Beam, that's been proven many times.

    The 7945HX3D is IDENTICAL is a 7950X3D (a "desktop" chip) it only has a lower TDP,

    If I was building a new computer.....I wouldn't go with AMD if I played Beam a lot with lots of AI vehicles.....even intel's lowest end Arrow Lake CPU can beat a 16 core AMD cpu.
     
  11. Pessima lover aka blob

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    Buddy was sponsored by Intel. 285k gets crushed Vs 9950X3D in basically every game and is on par with the 285k when it comes to performance in beamng. Id argue 30fps isn't way better than 25fps on some of the tests you've shown.
     
  12. Tyler-98-W68

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    So if i'm sponsored by intel, why do I have equal Intel and AMD systems in my house?

    If I was sponsored by intel why have I done all the same testing on both my AMD and intel systems?

    Why do the intel systems with hybrid architecture perform better in beam than the AMD 3D cache ones?

    I'm willing to bet i've spent far more time and used far more systems than you have for testing beam. So why don't you share your results with everyone.

    FACT, multiple AI cars want lots of fast cores. FACT intel's arrow lake CPU currently have the fastest single thread aka per core performance and excel in running multiple AI cars in Beam.

    If they didn't can you please explain the results that i've posted over and over again?

    How come a crappy 10 core arrow lake cpu (225) is the same or slightly better performance than a 7945HX3D cpu (lower power 7950x3d)?





    See, i'm not a delusional fanboy for either company I buy each company's CPU's and test them, the results speak for themselves

    Just looking at some of your posts it's apparent i'm dealing with someone who doesn't understand things very well

    Guys help, my gpu power isnt maxed out in beamng but utilization is 98%, gpu is RX 7700XT and power draw is 130W in 1080p ultra with graphics mods, performance **seems** fine getting 100fps but i havent tried other games yet
    Specs: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G (CPU), AMD Radeon RX 7700XT (GPU), Arch Linux, Zen kernel 6.15.3 (0S)


    Your CPU sucks and it's old, and your GPU isn't anything special either...............you GPU can get maxed out and not use its fully TGP,

    So before you go off and call me out for being sponsored maybe get yourself a better system before you come in spouting a bunch of crap that doesn't provide any real value.

    But for now i'll go back to testing systems, because that's what I do

     
  13. Jefferson KANG

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    no offense, but 7945HX3D which is Low-power "7950X3D" is gen 4, and same 16 core cpu but 9950X3D is gen 5, also 2~3 year difference, looks like you have lot of money, so go ahead buy an 9950X3D to check
    there was lot of improvement between them.
     
  14. Tyler-98-W68

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    I thought you were? No need to buy something i have zero use for. The 7800x3d vs my 7945hx3d is all I need to know.

    Where was the improvement where are the beam tests/ benchmarks.

    Still waiting for all your testing results to prove me wrong.

    So I have lots of money and you are poor? Why do you think I have lots of money? I have a hobby it's what I spend my money on

    Why don't you try this and see how your system does

     
  15. Jefferson KANG

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    I am casual guy who plays on 1080p and 5090
    yes sound stupid but im in 1080p

    can u try at 1080p also for good test idk
     
  16. Tyler-98-W68

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    No, you test at 1080p, you have a 5090 so test it yourself. Im busy testing other aspects of the game. I don't need to run the game at 300fps at 1080p. I run at 4k. But good job on having a 5090 to play at 1080p that makes so much sense.
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    Here's a good test you can run

    Spawn 200 portable toilets, then destroy them all.

     
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