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Random Blue Screens

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by Shivaxi, Jul 21, 2014.

  1. Cwazywazy

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    On my old netbook (1.6GHz Atom, GMA 945 or something) Minecraft was playable on lowest with Optifine. Drive got less than 2FPS. (That's with all settings lowest and a completely stripped D15.)
     
  2. SixSixSevenSeven

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    The server can use alot of RAM, but client is capped to 1gb... I know full well how minecraft works and about its inefficiencies. But it is simple both graphically and computationally. Runs 30fps far render on an i3-3217U here and 60fps normal render, no dedicated GPU just intels HD 4000. People mistake it as being easy to run because it really is.



    ANyway. I personally cant see why daemon tools would be at fault, but weirder things have happened. I presume you just use it for ISO mounting? I used to use WinCDEmu for that without issue and there are a few other equivelant softwares. I havent looked into them for awhile because windows 8 now features native ISO mounting and imaging.
     
  3. Cwazywazy

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    On my laptop with a 256MB Nvidia chip and 2.5GHz Core 2 Duo I can get 80-90+ FPS in MC with low-med settings and Optifine.
     
  4. Shivaxi

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    I see a lot of people mentioning optifine =P Yeah sure, Minecraft can be easy to run with Optifine, but try without it. Optifine usually doubles your FPS if not more. I also forgot to mention that I play with a modified version of SEUS shaders mod as well (has more features than standard like parallax occlusion and bump mapping, 3D Volumetric Clouds, better weather effects and reflections for rain, etc), plus with all the other mods I have running, I'll usually get around 30 to 40 FPS.

    I have an old laptop that can barely handle Minecraft:

    Windows 7
    Dual Core T6600 @ 2.2GHz
    4gb's DDR2
    Intel Graphics 4 series express chipset

    I'm lucky to get 20 FPS on Minecraft in a WINDOW, let alone fullscreen, with everything on low and shortest render distance, WITHOUT optifine lol. I've played BeamNG.Drive on my laptop as well and gotten pretty much the same FPS. =P I can run Flatout 1 and 2 and Unreal Tournament and even games like F.E.A.R. better on my laptop than I can Minecraft (again, without optifine).

    Also yes, I use Daemon for ISO mounting, as I have quite a few old games I play still that require the disc, so I made my own ISO's for them. Even if it turns out to be Daemon that is the problem, I don't think I'll be getting rid of Daemon for good. I mean it's a bunch of games versus 1 game here, and I'll just have to live with not being able to play BeamNG, or live with blue screens from time to time. Can anyone else with Daemon try my method for crashing and see if they crash as well? I mean I don't really have the time to keep crashing my computer over and over. I have a lot of projects I need to work on, plus Ill be leaving for Florida for a couple weeks in a few days, so I won't be around to keep debugging this.
     
    #24 Shivaxi, Jul 23, 2014
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  5. SixSixSevenSeven

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    My numbers were without optifine actually.... My old laptop optifine made things worse rather than better. I do use optifine on the desktop but thats only really because it combines the connected texture and far render distance mods too.


    Try winCDEmu as an alternative daemon tools
     
  6. TheAdmiester

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    Or MagicDisc. Just try removing Daemon Tools for a start though, and we'll see how it goes from there. Don't forget to remove the .sys file I mentioned.
     
  7. Shivaxi

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    Removing Daemon Tools didn't help. I'm really at a loss. I have a couple ways of reproducing the blue screen now, including trying to load the Leap Of Death map. That instant blue-screens every time on load (the newer version). No I'm not using experimental build.
     
  8. xKryptx

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    Is there by any chance you have drivers assigned from Microsoft rather than the developers own.
    This isnt just limited to CPU or GPU drivers either, could be a bad North/South bridge controller driver.

    littereally any driver can cause this..

    Download a program called BlueScreen View [here] and take a look at the drivers involved. :)
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    (Image taken from their own site)
     
  9. Shivaxi

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    Well I got the new update today and all my settings were reset. I went to blue screen it to try the program you linked xKrpytx and I couldn't get the game to crash haha. But as soon as I fiddled with settings, it bluescreened. It seems the game doesn't like me using fullscreen. If I play in a window, it's fine. But it also doesn't like the high graphic settings. If I have the high settings on, even in a window it will bluescreen.

    It's really weird and touchy, for example, loading the Leap-Of-Death map will normally cause an immediate bluescreen when it tries loading the maps. If I run the game in a small window though, the map will load. However as soon as I drive to the right and fall of the side cliff there, when the car goes to smash into the ground, it blue screens. If I turn every graphic setting to lowest AND have the game in a small window, then the map will load AND I can crash and not blue screen. This is so weird and I have really no clue what is going on, other than the fact that the game seems very touchy on high settings, fullscreen, and high res or whatever.

    Also I don't think my computer is logging these memory dumps correctly? I tried the program you linked xKryptx and it can't find any of the dumps. i even looked for the dumps manually in the place they're supposed to be and they are not there. So I'm not sure what's going on there either.

    EDIT: What's more weird is that I can run the map in the window with all low settings, drive around and do the first crash so that "cache" thing happens first time, then go fullscreen and max settings and play just fine without blue screening.
     
    #29 Shivaxi, Jan 24, 2015
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  10. Shivaxi

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    After re-installing Windows on a new harddrive, no more blue screens so far with all the tests that used to crash it before. So I guess it really was a driver issues...and I'm skeptical to re-install daemon tools at this point in case that was really the problem and conflict
     
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