T-Series Expansion Pack gone?

The forum thread has been reopened, you should be able to post there for support.
https://www.beamng.com/threads/gavril-t-series-expansion-pack.24127/

 

GTSEP needs a patch to look for the new file name of the GTG Commons Mod instead of the old one, which is why it's throwing that warning. If you have everything installed, just ignore it for now. And yes, the forum thread has been reopened.

 

To explain, no one was jealous that his mod was supposedly popular. People are annoyed because they like to use mods as an addon to their game, not to replace half the shit the game has. Yes you can just not use it, but its also as simple as just not overriding game files.

" but it's a design choice " get outta here. It's a stupid design choice. I'm sorry but if you intentionally override game files you have people then complaining and waiting forever for you to fix all of your broken code to just override the game again. Take a look at ar162bs t series addon, it's been years without update and almost everything works besides a few minor things. Your mod breaks each time. Maybe consider fixing that problem. Just saying.

It also isn't a recommendation to not override game files. It's a rule. While it hasn't been moderated for as much as it should in the past, it is now. You guys should've saw it coming and yet, guess what? You didn't. For the love of God stop focusing on your reputation and get your mod to a place people will enjoy. Its bad enough other modders have to change their mod and add a dumb tag at the bottom so it's compatible because it seems your addon breaks more than just game stuff. It breaks mods.

 

I Apologise, The Original message was deleted...

***ATTENTION ALL BEAMNG FORUM USERS***

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We apologise that our messages have been at times hot-headed. Furthermore, there was some misinformation given to various team members and whilst they acted on that information it was not the correct info, and therefore the statements were incorrect. As it stands, this is the most up-to-date version and (I hope) the final statement required: GTG Posted the T series mod just over 3 years ago, An inherent design choice was to utilise a feature of BeamNG called File Prioritization. (which is effectively file overwriting)

Whilst this seemed like a good idea at the time over the years it no longer provides the same benefits as it once did. In fact, as of 3 days ago it offered very few benefits and indeed caused more issues than anything else. However, this did not affect the running of the game except for a 2-month period where the T series was not updated from being broken following the .27 update. There were no known instances of it causing game instability issues caused by that choice over file prioritization brought to us in that 3-year period. That being said the new Lite package includes 0 file overwrites. It is less feature-full due to the nature of some of the file overwrites involving unique items being created and added to the game (Such as vanilla day cab).

Q - "Why not include both a vanilla option and your option in the tech tree (E.G. day cab)?"
A - We chose not to do this because it makes the vehicle as a whole appear and function like it came with the game. A duplicate T65 frame (Ontop of our already existing short wheelbase T65 frame, and the vanilla t65 frame) for example can be seen as clutter. Which we wish to avoid in keeping with the nature of an Overhaul vs. Parts Pack

Q - "Why do you need File overwrite to make your mods?"
A - Technically, we don't, however we chose to do so since the scope of the mod was to overhaul the Gavril T-Series into something it should have been originally. It's not merely a parts pack like so many other mods out there, despite what the name might imply!
That being said we will not be using it moving forward on repo variants

Q - "Will this affect your future mod-making plans?"
A - It will not affect the current plans. We already were planning to replace the repo version with one that is repo-friendly, but we never worked out all the details yet and have therefore not properly announced it yet. When a T-Series remaster is confirmed, the Gavril T-Series Expansion Pack will be made standalone and the Lite Edition withdrawn as it no longer needs to be in place. Moving forward our mods on the repo will now not include any form of file overwrite.

Q: Could we make it a standalone vehicle with all the same features instead of utilising file overwrite?
A: That is certainly something we can and will be looking into. Until recently this was not considered by the team.

That being said all mods posted on the repo will have a more feature-rich variant (with file overwrite utilised in some instances) available on our website here. This enables people who wish to run their game with 0 file overwrite to still enjoy our creations and for those willing to take a minuscule risk of having the game temporarily not work (fixed by disabling the mod, clearing cache and rebooting) we will have the full version(s) available on our website.

So in short we are sorry and apologise for this. We were wrong and as Nadeox1 pointed out whilst may not cause problems at first can cause issues later down the road. The outfall following has not been an intentional move by many on the team and I'd like to think no one wanted this.
We have, and will continue to make the BeamNG Repo useable and accessible to all who use it

I understand your frustrations and I will respond to as many as well as I can.


Thank you for being a part of the GMTI community.

Yours,
GMTI Team

 

Thank you, I didn't see this previous post nor the one attached to the Brake Glow mod. What caused our reaction was the fact it was removed spontaneously and with no warning. not excusing our actions*

 

Are you guys accepting any more applications for the PR team? seems y'all might want some extra help

 

Yes we are, Currently it is a one-man band ‍:/

 

Incredible, I'll send in an application shortly

 

If You want a link to the server let me know

 

Reading this, what you're expressing here is that it's not recommended, but from the way others are expressing it it's not allowed.

My question is which is it? If it's not allowed that's entirely up to the team but if it's just not recommended then this whole thing just becomes ridiculous.

 

This is just a friendly question, but would it be good idea to perhaps adjust the naming of the guidelines to make it easier to interpret them as rules instead of recommendations? I.e. guidelines replaced to rules or a better suited word? After a quick brief look in the Cambridge dictionary, the word guideline defines a recommendation/suggestion, which is where our mistake stemmed from for the most part