4790k or 5820k number of vehicle

Never mine a xeon?

This in my own benchmark

http://www.overclock.net/g/i/196851...ition-2014-500-in-prizing/sort/display_order/



This one is a random i5 4690k
I5 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3005016 vs http://www.overclock.net/g/i/196853...ition-2014-500-in-prizing/sort/display_order/


im even beating a 3770k in integer is that good enough? for a 125$ cpu


Again im called an amd fanboy when i always got intel and im going back to them..... not my fault if their price is too high


A xeon is a big chip with many core who own the singlethread record is the consumer chip because we need that for gaming while they need core for rendering heavy work etc



Im not the intel fanboy here still

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suck so bad that my 7950 is kicking the ass of a 2x the price 680 i cant say the driver work well still.. stupids amd driver

 

Funny how the 680 is a tiny bit better overall, not to mention that the much cheaper 770 is a little bit faster rebranded 680.

 

power comsumption wise yea


the 7950 overclocked beat in 90% a good 680 overclocked...

the vram is higher in most case

the vram bandwith is higher


at the end say what better im still looking i add myself DRIVER because i miss my old nvidia this thing was rock stable 24/7 :/

 

Overclocking is a gigantic waste of power for a tiny bit of extra performance.

And the 680 being 2 generations old doesn't really help your arguments either, it's more expensive than the 780 and 970 where i live.

 

are you want flame war

AMD doesn't suck, I've always owned AMD cards with no problems. Of course, there's no point in buying a 290X when a 970 is cheaper, but on mid-end cards AMD makes sense. Before the 900-series release and 760 price cut, a 270 was $80 cheaper and nearly as good in performance as a 760.

 

No, I'm not want a flamewar, I'm Dennis.

Excellent argument, truly mindblowing how relative to the subject it is that you have always owned amd cards with no problems.

AMD should really step up their game, gfx card and cpu wise.

 

Answers in blue.

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That's not my point. Well, part of it, they are reliable. Mostly depends on the manufacturer though. Of course, buying a high-end AMD card is stupid. They should just improve the 270/260 for the next generation and bin the 290. Can't beat Nvidia for high-end hardware.

I totally agree with CPUs. The 8320 is nowhere close to the 4690K/4790K, and the 9590... Seriously? 5 GHz, yes, still shit. And for $330? Lol, I'll buy a 4790K with that.
But instead of making a proper high-end CPU, they keep trying with those stupid APUs. Yes, we get it, you put graphics on your CPU, Intel has been doing it for years, move on.

 

Im on overclock.net i dont see often msi board failure what the point it one of the biggest overclocking forum in the world... i think they more people there than your own i used a msi and it fried.. i owned a asus p5k se and if i wanted i can set it on fire easily because it do not have protection....


the 970 is the best buy currently i know it...


YOu said my fx suck i said overclocked it on par with a 4690k.... you call back saying overclockign a 4690k = better damn are you stupids or what it a 125$ chip vs a 260$ chip


the 5960x is at 3.0ghz the 4790k is at 4.0 turbo at 4.4 maybe that why it suck overclock it to 4.4 and you will see it perform about the same as a 4790k but 2x intel wanted 140w tdp so they downlocked it..



THe 1800$ xeon of my friend is one of the 10 20thread core now they are 12 core the v3 and their singlethread is shit 110 cinebench i do 100 at 4.4 the 4790k 180

Cmon seriously




And an then for never asus burn there a firework for you


what kind of msi mobo you owned? i heard so many failure on all brand that i buy with warantly and what fit what i need the gigabyte are know to have problem with the z97 the asus are good the msi are good and the msi fit me better...




A proper cooler im going to get a h105 these chip can handle 100c same thing as laptop chip

Beam NG Cryisis 3 battlefield 4 and many other game do benefit from ht bf4 and crysis the i7 shine over any overclock i5


The amd 8320 8350 is near a 4790k in multithread but the i7 4790k as so many advantage that it not really worth comparing most program benefit from singlethread so.. I did seen a 950 + cinebench r15 on a heavily overclock 8350 at like 5.8 6.0ghz on phase change

 

One thing that can impact xeons for gaming big time. Deeper instruction pipeline than its i3/i5/i7 counterparts (actually i3's have a shallower pipeline than i5/i7 too).

More pipeline stages allows a higher instruction throughput normally (more stages = deeper). This is good, we all want that. However this doesn't always work effectively. Certain instructions (primarily conditionals and jumps although certain arithmetic instructions (typically with more than 2 operands) and I/O related instructions can also be at fault - but this is off topic nerd shit - and yes I have programmed in assembly) can cause problems with a deeper instruction pipeline.

Pipelining can be a complex field so I won't get into the "whys" too much, but these instructions can result in the pipeline being "flushed" or emptied and then reconstructed. The time spent reconstructing the pipeline eliminates its benefits. On a 4 stage pipeline (the most basic pipeline computing students are often introduced too is the 4 stage RISC pipeline) it will take 4 full cpu cycles to ramp up to its maximum instruction throughput again, no big deal. However Haswell cores depending on whether they are i3/i5/i7/xeon or mobile variants of the prior etc etc can have 14 to 19 stages. That is 14 to 19 instruction cycles taken to flush and reconstruct the pipeline, there is also a single cycle hit for the flush operation which takes us to 15-20 cycles before the CPU is running at full throughput again.

In general. More pipeline stages is good. Huge increases in speed. The typical 4 stage pipeline once its ramped up to full speed (4 cycles) has a 4 times higher instruction throughput than a non pipelined processor. So on that front you could say the xeon is good. Until it hits a pipeline purge. Time to reconstruct here, yeah just wait while I take 20 god damn cpu cycles to ramp up to full speed, oh wait nope, 4 instructions in I've hit another jump, time to purge and ramp up again, nope, 7 instructions in a 4 operand multiple, let me wait in a deadlock for a while and then I'll ramp up again, no no no, if statement, stop the line, clear everything out. Its a problem.

You find people sometimes criticise websites for having restrictions on how many characters a username can have or whatever. That is to do with databases which are of course run on servers, a field in which the xeon is popular. The people that maintain these databases get irritable that text fields *must* have a fixed size and that if you have a string that is less than the field size then it gets padded out with \0 repeatedly until the field is full and that you can't have an empty field in the database. There is a reason for this. The database software itself by doing this can actually be optimised to run much faster on fixed size content than dynamically sized content. One additional benefit of this. It allows you to avoid the instructions which cause pipeline stalls and purges and therefore take advantage of the 19 times speed boost over a non pipelined processor. Conversely, games are chock full of instructions which cause pipeline stalls and purges, the xeon doesnt like that too much.

And that ends another (long overdue) 6677 mega post on some technical field.

I wrote 3 sides of A4 on pipelining in an exam...

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Its also notable that most consumer benchmarking tools also feature many instructions which would cause the xeons to run into trouble. This is one of the reasons why benchmarks can often be meaningless.

 

You are comparing a heavily overclocked AMD chip to a stock clocked Intel one. If you overclocked the Intel chips they would leave the AMD CPU in their trails.

If you are comparing 2 CPU's do not compare a stock clocked chip with an overclocked one if they can both overclock very well.

 

Interesting but in multithread his 10 core xeon shred a fx ( Hyperthreading help alot with 10 core ) put ht on a fx and let this thing do high score i dont think it possible but if it was ht dont make high singlethread score but high multithread at the end making think the cpu perform better if you divide the score by 10


Thank you for all that

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an intel 22nm will never overclock as high as a fx 32nm intel hit voltage wall currently they cant overclock very high the voltage kill the chip too fast still happy gpu are on 28nm... im sure overclocking will die with 14nm and lower

 

Who cares if you can hit 50 bazillion Ghz on the Intel/AMD or not. The fact of the matter is that it will still overclock quite nicely, most certainly more than enough to easily out do your super overclocked AMD. If you get your CPU with a 1Ghz overclock and the Intel one with a 1Ghz overclock the Intel will be far faster.

Do not compare an overclocked chip to a stock clocked chip in order to decide which chip is better, it makes you look like a numpty.

 

Wut im saying that my 125$ chip can kick the ass of intel chip worth 260$ ( even your 2500k) that pretty good i think

Go try overclock a pentium g3258 to reach my multithread power... you will not...

I3 you can dream while intel empty your pocket...


im bored of that shit

 

Hyperthreading does not improve performance, only multitasking ability.

Interesting lesson on pipelining there, 6677. I knew Xeon CPU's weren't great for gaming but had no idea why.

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High voltage = higher amperage through the CPU = higher temperature. As long as you find a way to cool it you can overclock all you want.

 

Ummm nope.
Since you like passmark so much i decided to give it a go.
My Intel I5 2500K @ STOCK CLOCKS = 7108 (passmark claim it gets 6487, so please notice that results evidently vary quite greatly evidently)
Your FX-6300 @ STOCK CLOCKS = 6353 (according to the passmark website, in reality it may be a bit higher, or maybe not, its fairly hit and miss with passmark)

That means my CPU is about 10% faster than yours. Please remember that your CPU was released more than a year after mine. Now take into account that my model of CPU was launched nearly 4 years ago. The new Intel I5 K edition models are far less old than that, they also perform much faster than my CPU. Therefore they would easily own your CPU @ STOCK CLOCKS. Im not about to overclock my CPU to the same frequency as yours because im too lazy to do that at the moment, but an I5 2500K will have no issues reaching 4.4Ghz on air.

So please stop claiming that your amazing 3 year old(ish) FX-6300 can perform just as well as the latest Intel I7 parts, because it barely competes with the top of the range I5 components that were launched a year earlier

EDIT:
I think the large discrepancy may be because they say they have the chip running at 3.3Ghz. By default the I5 2500K will turbo up to 3.7Ghz which is where mine is most of the time. But that may not be the reason

 

No it can't.

AMD has better value, yes, but no AMD CPU is as good as a 4690K/4790K. The 9590 doesn't really count, since it costs the same as a 4790K.

 

No Voltage start to jump everywhere can cause damage it not only about temp... sure if your on phase change it help but at one point ln2 is not enough and you fry chip


Explain why people report dead 22nm pentium i5-i7 at 1.5 volt with more than enough cooling... Even degradation at 1.45 amd fx 9590 is at 1.5 volt + and they come with 1 years warantly they can handle 1.6 on water

May be defect but i dont think

 

are you really comparing a pentium to an fx-6300? that's not a fair comparison at all

the pentium series is more meant for home and office pc's, and should not be compared to an fx-6300 which is more meant for gaming and things like that

 

I dont mean voltage i mean that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration


THe time i though to remember the name

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I know but he said it stupids to compare my fx 6300 with a i5

so i put a cheaper chip... so now im waiting for him to show a 125$ chip that can compete in multithread with my fx 6300


Anyways im selling this 6300 for a 4790k

 

I never claimed that your chip is not good for the price. You said it could keep up with an I7 by comparing your overclocked chip with a stock I7. That is not how comparing CPU's works. AMD are pretty much king of cheap performance but in terms of true power Intel are the real winners.