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Poor FPS on reasonable hardware [SOLVED]

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by Tango91, Oct 10, 2014.

  1. Tango91

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    Hi,

    I'm having a real problem with running BeamNG smoothly. The game seems to default to around 16FPS regardless of the map, vehicle, graphics settings, etc. Turning off the UI does seem to temporarily boost the FPS but it soon drops to 16FPS or below. Occasionally, for no obvious reason, the FPS might jump to above 30FPS, but it always drops right back.

    EDIT: To emphasize, running 1 gavril pickup on pure grid, postFX off, all options to minimum at 1080p fullscreen, physics disabled, UI turned on... ~16FPS.
    Turning the UI off with these settings results in FPS of up to ~50, but as soon as the camera is moved the FPS tanks back to below 20.

    It's worth noting that this happens whether or not physics is paused, and additional vehicles, up to a certain point, make little to no difference, as the benchmark test suggests.

    I've been having this problem since the update on both the stable and experimental versions.

    I've just upgraded my graphics card from a GTX460 1GB to a R9 290 4GB, and the improvement has been precisely... dick.

    PC Specs:

    Processor: Phenom II X4 965 3.68GHz
    RAM: 16gb 1600MHz DDR3
    Monitor: 1920x1080
    GFX Card: Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC 4GB - formerly Nvidia GTX 460 1GB

    Help please? Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

    EDIT: Problem was cured by completely reinstalling a fresh copy of Windows along with the latest drivers etc.
     
    #1 Tango91, Oct 10, 2014
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2014
  2. BaronRedStorm

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    I have the exact same Cpu (Well mine is 3.40 GHZ) Anyway, I think it's your GPU Is bottlenecking.
     
  3. Tango91

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    I'm certain that it's not CPU related, because enabling/disabling physics or having extra cars (up to a point) makes no appreciable difference.

    As for the GPU, it should be absolutely able to give me at least a decent framerate, it monsters through other games like Tomb Raider on Ultra with everything turned on.
     
  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Coincedentally, the game is running better than that on my GTX460...

    Sure the game is using the correct GPU and hasnt fallen back on the integrated chipset?
     
  5. ioannaoi

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Try disabling the UI with shift+U if you have the experimental version, gives me around 10-15 more FPS
     
  6. BaronRedStorm

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Haven't you read the first post?, It worked if he didn't move but if he moved the camera he lagged, Read the post first before posting.
     
  7. Possibly_Pos

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Have you tried playing the game at a lower resolution? I know playing the game on my pc at higher then 720p makes my fps go to total crap.
     
  8. Davidbc

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    He has a monster gpu, stop telling him to lower resolution or crap like that, he should be maxing out this game without an issue.

    The problem I see is that your computer is completely unbalanced, you have a nice high-end gpu but a crap CPU that I can assure you it's bottlenecking you in every game. What PSU are you using? I hope you didn't upgrade from a gtx 460 to an amd r9 290 and kept a low wattage psu...
     
  9. Tango91

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Thanks for the replies :)

    I have a 600W Cooler Master modular PSU. I haven't noticed any instability or voltage problems so far.

    As for the balance/CPU... I have to agree, but this PC is a gradual evolution, not a build as such.
     
  10. yyriFIN

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    The processor is definitely a bottleneck. Try upgrading your processor sometime, example to Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3 if you aren't overclocking. It equals intel i7-4770 in performance, but is cheaper. Also you need a new motherboard for it.
     
  11. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Not a bottleneck, else pausing physics would have impacted his FPS which it seems it hasnt.
     
  12. Tango91

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    I know my CPU isn't going to set the world on fire but it's not that bad.

    Here's a screencap of the bananabench test:


    (imported from here)

    I take it that it's a 32-bit application? Because there's definitely 16GB of ram in this thing...


    (imported from here)

    :/
     
    #12 Tango91, Oct 11, 2014
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  13. Tango91

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    I'm still playing with the settings and trying to make the best of a bad situation, but not having much success.

    Just an observation, but in the brief moments when the FPS rockets up past the teens, the entire game seems to speed up to far more than realtime. Any ideas?
     
  14. logoster

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    the speeding up thing is most likeley that your not used to seeing what the game looks like when it's running correctly, so it looks rediculously fast (when in reality it's actually normal, your low fps causes low physics fps, making real-time not all that real-time)

    there does seem to be something wrong on your end though, as you should not be getting 15 fps with a traffic cone on pure grid

    have you tried re-installing from scratch?
     
  15. chorepusify

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Or is the game just poorly optimized?
     
  16. FZulley

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Check or play with your VSYNC Settings. I am getting the feeling that there is something going wrong. Why? You always seem to get the same framerate, and a spike above it gets throtteld down to 16 again. Might be wrong, but I think playing with the VSYNC settings won't be bad.

    Other one: Driver problems. You changed from NVidia to ATI .. sorry, AMD. I've seen the worst things happen because some parts of the nvidia driver were left.

    EDIT:
    When playing with VSYNC, do everything that can be done.. use BeamNG settings, driver settings etc. It's more a thought, so it might be that it won't be succesfull.

    Some other thoughts:
    Uninstall everything of your AMD Graphics Drivers clean. There might be cleaning tools availible. With such a tool search for ghosts of the NVIDIA driver.
    After cleaning, reinstall the (most recent) AMD driver.
    Maybe think about reinstalling chipset drivers. If those things do not help at all... well.. Seems to be something with your BeamNG then, as other games seem to work fine for you.
     
    #16 FZulley, Oct 21, 2014
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  17. Quannix

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    May sound extremely silly, but have you tried running in fullscreen?
    AMD has problems with certain applications not being recognized as games when in windowed mode.
     
  18. n0ah1897

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    I'd suggest uninstalling and reinstalling any graphics drivers. Also make sure you have gotten rid of all NVIDIA drivers. Then maybe untinstall and reinstall the game as well. Your fps is quite bizarre.
     
  19. Tango91

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    Re: Poor FPS on reasonable hardware

    Thanks to you all for your suggestions and help. :)

    A completely clean install of Windows seems to have solved the problem... So the original problem was probably a driver issue of some sort?

    Now I can concentrate on lamenting my poor CPU performance instead ;)
     
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