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Can Someone Remaster The Old BTR-80 mod?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by shinchanf1, May 19, 2021.

  1. shinchanf1

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    Yea, Yea, I Know That Mod Was Old, But It's non-existent now. As I know, The original User Who Made The Mod, Deleted It. The JBeam Might Take Some Time Since It's Indestructible(Or Maybe Not I'm A Bit New), But The Texture Would Probably Be easy to get since there are some sites that have it, But They Might Be Sketchy. A New Feature That Could Be added To Make It a Remaster Is The Top Gun, It Didn't Originally Work Work In The Old Mod, But There Is A Potential! Other Mods Like The Firehawk Have Proven That We Can Make Functioning Vehicle Mounted Weapons In Beamng. A Reason Why I Request This Remaster Is Is Because Of It's Ability To Be Immune To Fire, Breaking Parts, And Partial Body Indestructability(Since It Can Be Stretched With The NodeGrabber). Can A User Or A Group Of Users Attempt A BTR-80 Remaster? This Would Probably Be A Great Reupload/Remaster Of An Old, Legendary Mod. If You Don't Know What Mod I'm Talking About, It's This:
     
  2. S.Ali.M

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    This mod works good in my game, It's not outdated.
     
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  3. a plane guy

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  4. S.Ali.M

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  5. a plane guy

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    I also do I reworked the torqe
     
  6. default0.0player

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    #6 default0.0player, Oct 24, 2021
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  7. Agent_Y

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    When you translate the Russian Wikipedia article, you get some helpful info for it:
    • Center diff is lockable
    • Both front axles are disconnectable
    • Vehicle can still move after losing any 2 wheels (which implies the rest of the diffs are locked)
    • Friction-limiting torque clutch (I guess it's the thing the D-Series crawler transfer case adds?)
    • 2 transmission brakes and transmission parking brake
    • 8-wheel steering but the 4 front wheels turn more than the 4 back ones
    • Independent torsion bar suspension on each axle
    • Hydraulic shocks
    • Centralized tire pressure control system
    • Radiator is above the water propulsion things
    Configs that could be in the mod could be based on the variants present in Russian military:
    • BTR-80 - standard equipment
    • BTR-80K - with radio and antenna
    • BTR-80A - bigger turret with bigger gun
    • BTR-80S - bigger turret with even bigger gun
    • BTR-80M - bigger turret with bigger gun, bigger more powerful engine and bulletproof tires
    As for the gear ratios you can probably assume that the original final drives in the mod are accurate, because this mod was always supposed to be made accurate to real life but the old powertrain system wasn't good enough for it obviously, so you can try to set it all up in a way that the final drive is the same as in old version.
     
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  8. default0.0player

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    After reading from multiple sources. I understand the meaning of the translated Russian article.
    • Inter-axle diffs are lockable, left to right, not front to rear.
    • 4 wheel steering, the front steering wheels turn more than rear steering wheels.
    • Diff locks are friction limited, when one wheel gets really stuck in stationary, the locking clutch will slip, in order to prevent damage.
    • The "transbrake" is a ratchet, which prevents the APC from rolling backwards in forward gear.
    • Water propulsion power from a PTO connects to the transfercase.
    I still don't know how to make a centralized tire pressure control system, unfortunately.
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    Now I finished the 8X8 drivetrain, with working water propeller. Realistic engine power and realistic water&land topspeed. However, where should I post the update? The original post is locked. Credit the original author and make another thread like this one?
     

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  9. Agent_Y

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    Probably making a new thread is the best option since the person who made the super fast version never got in any trouble because of it so we know it's safe. And maybe more people will help with the mod then, because it needs more of a remaster than this, it doesn't even have a visible interior or any mechanical bits, which it should. Also cool that you understood the whole article.
     
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  10. default0.0player

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    Before posting, I still have two questions regard the drivetrain.

    According to the sources I read, the BTR-80 has low range, but idk the low range gear ratio. I'll put it to either 2.7(in most of BeamNG 4X4) or 4(crawler) if I'm unable to find.


    Also the biggest confusion is about whether the center diff is lockable.

    The drivetrain can be explained as this. The center diff connects to the gearbox, the transfercase_13 and transfercase_24 connect to the center diff, those two transfercases' front shaft can be disconnected so the "differential" inside them are spools. Then the diff_1 and diff_3 connect to transfercase_13 and diff_2 and diff_4 connect to transfercase_24, and the diff 1/2/3/4 are lockable.
    As you can see, the articles only say that the Inter-axle diffs are lockable, I'm unable to find whether the very center diff is lockable. Multiple possibilities exist.
    1. The center is welded. Unlikely, as it'll create driveline binding between 3rd and 4th axles during turns even in RWD when driving on tarmac.
    2. The center is lockable. According to the article(s), the BTR-80 can move even after losing any 2 wheels. However if the center is lockable, the BTR can still move after losing 3 or 4 wheels as long as not all wheels on one side lost. For example, losing 2 3 7 8 wheels will immobilize the BTR-80 if the center diff is open, and won't immobilize the BTR-80 if the center is locked.
    3. The center is open. Even the center diff is not lockable, the BTR-80 can still move after losing 2 wheels. However, the problem occurs when driving from water to land. If the center is open, when driving from water to land, the wheel 1 and 2 touches the ground first but cannot output torque since the 3 4 7 8 wheels are still on water spinning helplessly. The propeller, while sufficient to push the APC at 9~10km/h, unable to push it uphill when landing, unless the coast is very flat.
     
  11. Agent_Y

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    What if somehow it's a completely different type of diff altogether? It could be a splitshaft or LSD, but I can't really tell if either of those makes sense here
     
  12. Iosifus Stalinus

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    is it released?
     
  13. Maxencexx

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    Hello i found the btr-80 mod (it work in the latest version) on a sketchy russian site but it work so if you want i can send you the file if there is a virus in it its not me fault i just downloaded it if u want i can show u a video of me driving it

    edit:it work in water too if u press E

    2edit:here is me testing it

    3edit: i did not understand what u was trying to say sorry cuse me bad at english so just ingore me message
     
    #13 Maxencexx, Jan 2, 2022
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