wouldnt say that with the biggest petrol they have 280hp and with a ecu remap they have 360hp heard of some that got around 600 out of them
gee, that so much you wouldn't even be able to use/enjoy all of it, what ever happened to the days when 180 was plenty
From experience, 160 horsepower at 3100 pounds is completely drivable. The Commodore, with 308 horsepower at 4300 pounds should be completely fine for police duty, and depending on trim, the Superb can do 0-100kmh In less than six seconds, which is bonkers fast for a standard 2 liter estate.
the best thing is that isnt even all thats possible with that car you could in theory swap the Audi RS3 Motor into it wich is able to do 1200hp
the weight of crash saftety protection, and the general fact that 180hp just isn't fun when you have adaptive suspension and modern radial tires. try thrashing a miramar GTz and a base model vivace around the same course, even in game you can tell it's so much easier to get to the limit of the suspension and tires with the miramar when you only have 110hp. for the same reason, blasting down a road at 150 kmh in the 70s was exhilarating because of how dangerous it was, but with modern handling technology a decent driver could pretend the speed limit was 150 and it wouldn't be anywhere near the limit of the car. thus, they go toward the logical conclusion, and crank up the power, and make the new exhilarating speed 200 kmh.
relocating this discussion from the update speculation thread: it's true. the 48 was originally designed to be used as a chevrolet and pontiac model, itself based off the platform of the opel kapitan, with a a buick designed engine (which was redesigned into the grey motor), in the event that fuel would be scarce after the war. But it wasn't needed in America, so they repurposed it to be the "first australian car". the FE-EK was basically just a lengthened, but otherwise mechanically identical car, and the styling was directly based off the '55 - '57 chevrolet models. The EJ also had very little chassis changes, being little more than a heavy restyle, and the styling from then until the late 60's was led by bill mitchell, and done alongside the opel models of the time, including the 60's generations of the aforementioned kapitan. so at this point, it looks like a contemporary opel, and mechanically, it's effectively a 30's opel with a 40's buick straight 6. The Red Motor introduced in the EH was about the most australian thing yet, being a ground-up redesign of the general idea of the Grey motor, all done in australia. the HD was overall a larger car, but once again, only minimal mechanical changes, and again with opel kapitan styling cues. the HK is more of the same, a bit larger, minor mechanical changes. fun fact, the names "kingswood", "statesman", "caprice", and "brougham" were all recycled from chevrolet and cadillac models. the Red V8 introduced for the HT was, rather bizarrely, a design bought from AMC and modified for performance/luxury use. also, every generation of torana comes directly back to the HA Vauxhall Viva which preceded it. The HQ is where it really starts to get interesting. for the first time since 1948, they fully redesigned the mechanical platform of it, in what has to be one of the only examples of going from a full monocoque to a partial body-on-frame setup, and a full chassis in the case of the ute, panel van, and newly introduced one tonner. but it was too agricultural, and they soon ran back to another opel platform, this time in the form of the Opel Commodore C for the VB commodore. They retained the red motor until 1985 when its 1960s technology was starting to show, so they bought some engines from nissan and put them in the VL. then with the VN, they opted to just borrow another opel, this time the senator B. as far as engines go, from then on all the 6 cylinders became whatever contemporary Buick V6 was available at the time. The VT, once again was holden lazily borrowing another opel, this time the roth alpha omega B. then, during the VT's run in 1999, the Holden 5000i V8 was replaced with the LS1, signalling the end of GMH designed engines. finally, in 2006, holden couldn't borrow a RWD platform from Opel anymore, so they teamed up with cadillac (who had also been borrowing the omega b to make the catera), to make the Zeta platform, which was the basis for the VE and VF. after that, of course, GM USA didn't like that, so they pulled the plug and started selling opels again, this time the insignia B. TL;DR it was a 1930s opel from the FX to the HT, then a unique platform for the HQ to WB, then various opels again from the VB to VZ, then a holden/cadillac hybrid for the VE/VF, then an opel again, then ded.
Yay I was absolutely bang on correct about something, but was the 253's and 308's really an AMC engine, right so who' s the idiot i should thump over the head for putting the fan on the water pump then ? Oh and what about the Blue and Black (a redder shade of red over the red engine the Black engine was), or are they not really significant enough to mention because they were just improved versions of the Red engine Edit: sorry nitpick but you forgot about the HG, though i wouldn't think of it as that important due to it being another variant of the HK, unless i'm mistaken ?
Manager: Taking a rental vehicle off of airport property unless explicitly directed by a manager is grounds for immediate termination!!!! Did some beauty gravel ebrake slides in this car, shame I didn't have a camera man.
Im still not following the logic behind this VE-VF isn't a Holden design malarkey. Even if what you're saying is accurate, that is still Holden's platform. Even if they brought in some Cadillac engineers to assist, its not like Cadillac itself ever built anything upon it. They designed that here in Australia & all its testing was done at Holden's facility in Lang-Lang 4 years after it debuted Chevy chucked a Camaro on top of it but otherwise that platform was all Holden. The only real argument that the VE-VF weren't Holden's is that they used Chevrolet V8's. We can all agree the rest of Holden's line-up over the years picked & pulled stuff from all over the GM parts bin to built upon but the VE-VF was entirely Holden.
I was talking to a friend of mine and she mentioned that the hosts of a birthday party rented a Phantom for the party. I didn't see a Phantom in a while, so I didn't remember the shape. The Phantom VII (the one that ran from 2003 to 2017) looks very good. The Phantom VIII's front looks almost square.
I'm not into nascar like that but the next gen looks pretty cool. I mean it's gonna be ruined with sponsorship decals and stuff eventually but still it's cool.
