Update Speculation thread

Countless examples of cars being produced in developing nations past their prime elsewhere.

A modern example is the Nissan Tsuru in Mexico, only discontinued in the past few years.


Random question, Did 80's and 90's American full size pickup trucks have rear disc brakes on the standard trims IRL?

Asking this because the D Series, Roamer and H Series have all wheel disc brakes standard.

 

I think disc brakes could have been optional but I don't think I have seen any IIRC. My 1992 Suburban has rear drums, and even new Toyota Tacomas still have rear drums. I never really paid enough attention to know for sure if there are rear discs on trucks of that age, but I doubt any had them.

 

In 1986, you were lucky to get discs at all. My F-150 - an XLT Lariat at that, far from the base trim - was made in 1990, and I believe it has 4-wheel drums. I would even question if the D-Series should have ABS on all four wheels. Maybe offering a rear-wheel-only ABS system would compliment the truck's late-80s charm.

EDIT: The F-150 had front discs. My bad.

 

1999 to 2007 classic could have disc brakes. 2007 new body and up I believe they are still optional.

 

No, and that's another pet peeve of mine. Even my buddy's 2012 Silverado has rear drums. Rear disc brakes didn't even become common in most SUVs until the early '90s, and much later in trucks. I believe that rear discs are standard in 3/4 and 1-ton trucks.

4-wheel drums? I highly doubt that. My dad's old '87 F150 Lariat had front discs and it was the same generation as your truck. Even his '77 Jeep CJ-5 had factory front discs. Nearly every vehicle manufacturer switched to standard front discs in the '70s.

 

I think four wheel abs would fit the facelift but the earlier models shouldn't have it, or at least only have it as a high end trim option

 

You're actually right! Apparently it does. I legitimately drove it for a week before it went in for paint, and never worked on it. Apparently my memory failed me.

 

Why are you compaining about disk brakes just now, should have done that when the early facelift came out.

 

Idk, somehow I just thought about mentioning it yesterday. Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it.

 

Oh ight, also why is everybody so butthurt about a game.

 

Why are you questioning the existence of discussions of updates on the thread for discussing updates?

 

Good point.

 

What? Literally no one is butthurt, we are just pointing out where improvements can be made to make the game more historically accurate.

 

Some people aren't butthurt I know but some people sound quite butthurt.

 

Text format does not express emotions well.

 

Agreed.
Focusing on the disc brakes thing, this used to be my 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 Sport V10 it had rear drum drakes all 2nd gen rams from 1994-2000 had drum brakes the D-series really needs drums instead of discs in the rear

 

another thing to think about is that most trucks of the era had engines much larger than 6.0 available, all 3 mainstream trucks had a 440,454, and 460ci V8 option in the early 80's, which were replaced in the 90's by an 8.0 V10, a 8.1 V8, and a 6.8 V10 respectively.
considering the Pickup and Van are getting more content, it would make sense if they added one of the two. (or maybe both?)

the Fact that the van likely isn't going to be pre-facelifted and that we're getting a late 90's pickup in the next update, makes me think a more modern, possibly V10 engine is more likely.

 

I wouldn't be supprised if it got a v10 and if the v10 has more horsepower and almost as much torque as the 6.0. Most cause the Dodge 8.0L V10 made more torque and horsepower than the Cummins untill the last years of the 2nd gen.

 

Just because I'm in a nitpicking mood, the '81'-'93 Dodge Ram/D/W-Series didn't have a big block (personally I don't know why the '72-'80 had a 440 but not the '81-'93). Which was one of many reasons no one bought it, so I guess it isn't "mainstream" and thus not a fair nitpick. Even then, it got a 5.9 which is still bigger than the Gavril 5.5... The D25/35 could really use some more differentiation from the D15, a big block gas motor would help a lot in that department.

As for the Van's facelift... While there is no sign of a pre-facelift, I don't think it's impossible to see an older van. AR162B did a good job of making it a bit older, and taking the Ford route of two bodies on one van platform we could see a van-culture era truck up to a modern truck. Having a van culture era van would be great for content.

 

1994 through 2001 dodge ram 1500 had rear drum brakes on all trim levels as far as I know