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ETK 800 Series

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  1. P_enta

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    why are there only 3 pages here?
     
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    good point
     
  3. CaptainZoll

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    there's 4 now. ok i'll stop
    the thread was made about 6 months after the car was released, so there was less of the "wow, this new car is awesome" posts on here.
     
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    im sure this has been mentioned before but it still irritates me how the other etks are given letter names and this is the only one with a number (k series vs 800 series). there's no reason for it and it's not a thing real manufacturers ever do
     
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    BMW Z Cars compared to their numbered series cars?

    I really don't see any problem with their nomenclature, bar the base model I-Series
     
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  6. JowoHD

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    yeah but that's two distinct groups of cars, admittedly i did forget about them but still. if it was the other way round, the k series had a different name to the rest of them i could chalk it up to it being a "sports car" but both the 800 and i series are midsize cars, albeit from different eras
     
  7. JayPlaysBeamNG

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    IMO the nomenclature makes little sense once the I-series is introduced. It was fine before, having “Z cars” distinct from the numbered cars, but having a lettered sedan makes no sense. It should’ve been called the 2000 series. Would’ve made more sense.
     
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  8. ManfredE3

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    IIRC it was originally the 1800 series or something like that.

    If the cars were closer in year I probably would agree with you, but with such a large gap in model years it's easy to imagine any number of reasons for them to change the nomenclature.
     
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    The I-Series was originally called the 2400i because it had a 2.4 liter fuel-injected engine, but then a 3.0 liter was added during development so calling all models a 2400i no longer made sense. Then for whatever reason they made non-“i” I-Series models, which makes no sense at all especially since they’re still fuel-injected.

    I wrote an entire post about this. The I-Series’ name makes no sense.
     
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    the gap in model years is acceptable, because some time around then to now, mercedes, BMW, and audi have all changed their nomenclature conventions:
    merc going from 300,600,etc. to c220, S500 etc.
    BMW going from 1602, 2002ti, 2000C, to 220D, 650i, M3, etc.
    and audi going from 80,100,5000 to a1, a2, a8, etc.
     
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    It's not it being different from newer models that's wrong. By itself, the I-Series' naming convention makes no sense.
     
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  12. Like_a_Sleeper

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    would be cool if the ETK800 would have something like an M/AMG variant with a more powerfull i6 or a V8 with and without turbos
     
  13. CaptainZoll

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    Well, there's no TTsport K series yet, and most cars of that class IRL have larger engine options, so if the K series gets a V8, the 800 will likely get it as well, at least as an engine swap.
     
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    It's sad that there is little to no customization in both 800 and K series
     
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    The original thread doesn’t even say “I-Seires”. It just says “ETK 2400i”. For some reason people started calling it the I-series even though the I is literally the engine version, and it stuck. Given that all the trim numbers start with 2 and have four digits, following the nomenclature set by the ETK800, we can assume the actual name is the 2000 series.
    Edit: or not, I forgot about the 3000i.
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    It’s a bmw, what do you expect. They’re just computers on wheels
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    I think that’s what the TT sport is for.

    The M3 hasn’t been naturally aspirated since 2014.
     
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    There is a 3000i. And I suppose it's like that:
    Make: ETK
    Model: I-Series
    Trim: 2400i
    So I-Series is a model name, because we don't call the Pessima ZX like Ibishu 2.0 ZX, for example
     
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    If the actual name is "2000 series", why is it "I-Series" in game?

    And why are we all assuming it's the I-Series that's "wrong"?
     
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    That's what I too was talking about
     
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    That’s why I’m nagged. I-series nomenclature makes no sense to me. It’s not like they abandoned the letter naming convention, given that the K-Series is a letter. I guess that can be written off as the BMW “Z” lineup.
     
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    is anyone else mildly annoyed by the styling of the ETK 800? or is it just me?
    for some reason, despite that I love the way the RS6, M5 touring, and even the C63 wagon look, i've just never particularly come at the 800.
    I did a bit of fiddling around in gimp, and I think i might have figured out why: this car has mild symptoms of aztek syndrome.
    I say that because it has a few glaring issues, like the pontiac's weird roofline and double nostrils, which are off-putting, leading you to notice a bunch of other messy, negative aspects of the car.

    credit where it's due, this was the first modern car with intricate styling (the sunburst being pre-overstyling era and the SBR being boxy in general), and considering that, it's pretty good.
    and there are some really good features, like the taillight side edge parallel to the "gabemeister kink", present on all ETKs (I bet you hadn't noticed that before).
    screenshot_2020-08-05_22-48-57.jpg

    but anyway, here is the edit in question, left is original: (I'm also making one for the front, i'll show it later)
    screenshot_2020-08-05_19-03-47.png screenshot_2020-08-05_19-03-48.png
    but as far as problems go; in the back, it's primarily a case of lines that aren't directed anywhere, the edges of the taillights aesthetically feel like an automation fixture kind of arbitrarily slapped on there, with only the vertical illuminated taillight strip and the the aforementioned side edge being directed anywhere particular.

    another problem is the actual shape of the rear bumper, (probably caused by the number plate being mounted on the bumper rather than the tailgate.) to summarise, the bumper is too convex, when you compare it to any IRL counterparts:

    notice how they all have the top face coming from the taillight, leading out at a 45 degree angle, sometimes even concave in shape, then hitting a sharp crease, and going straight down? the 800 doesn't do that, instead it has a 90's style "jellybean butt" with no creases in it, going against the rest of the car's design.

    another small thing, some of the panel gaps can be redirected to work a lot better with the gabemeister kink, primarily the back door edge and the quarterpanel to rear bumper line. straightening those out pmphasises those parallel lines, giving it a shape reminiscent of the 4dr golf's C pillar.

    As i'm writing this, i realise i am now that person who obsesses over panel gaps on fictional cars. what have I become?
     
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