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Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by corvette81, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. corvette81

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    Hi,
    Looking for some clarification on if meshslaps are officially banned now as per content rule 11?

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    Also follow up question if they are banned and new content must abide by the rule is it suggested to use the report button for it?

    Not looking to start drama and please only post in response if you have the correct answer(with proof preferably unless moderation team cause clearly their word is proof enough )

    cheers corvette
     
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  2. RobertGracie

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    I think it would be good for people to report things in like this, I am okayish at spotting things if its obvious but if its a disguised meshslap mod it will get past me and I would trust people who know what to look for to report them
     
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  3. Leeloo

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    Here are some examples of what can be considered as a breach of this rule:

    - Presenting another author's work as your own
    - Using part(s) of another author's work without permission
    - Illegitimately obtaining assets and presenting them as your work
    - Repeatedly distributing illegitimately obtained assets (including screenshots of leaked mods)
     
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  4. corvette81

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    Ah ok, just the way the rule is written very much sounds like assets from other games and sources are banned. Not trying to be a smartarse just curious if this was intended or not.
     
  5. AgentMooshroom5

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    On the subject of clarifying the new rules, what counts as "profanity" in the content section?
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    Is it all swearing, only specific words, anything negative or targetted at someone else etc banned/not allowed?
     
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  6. Phym

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    Would this include meshlaps?
     
  7. FalloutNode

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    only if the meshslap uses models you don't have permission to use.
    it is clearly written in the explanation.
     
  8. TwoTwoNine

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    Speaking of meshslaps..
    Would a scratch jbeamed mod that uses a model from a different game still count, or would it be okay?

    Also on the topic, would that mean I wouldn't be able to release my Maserati Tipo 61, since it uses a model from another game, despite the fact that it is scratch jbeamed?
     
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  9. Leeloo

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    It really depends, are you talking about re-creating a model or ripping it out of the game? In the latter case, you will engage in copyright infringement since the asset was created by the artist working on that game. If you just want to port something, that's a different story.
     
  10. NOCARGO

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    So where is the limit precisely ?
     
  11. TwoTwoNine

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    It is using the model from another game, however it will have a lot of editing such as modelling a frame, and modelling the engine - which the original model lacked.
     
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  12. corvette81

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    Porting an already stolen model is still copyright infringing though, just means you didn’t rip it from the game files yourself. Also porting a model without permission or without the correct license is still theft and would infringe copyright.

    I feel like this rule needs a subsection with allow/not allowed.
     
  13. NOCARGO

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    I think this ↑ should be pinned on the forums by the staff.
     
  14. Leeloo

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    To prevent loopholes, we won't be specifying the examples directly in the rules. If the author of the mod/model requests its removal, we will investigate.
     
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    Does this mean that if Turn10 for example doesn't request removal that we can use mesh from its games to further create scrap made mods ?
     
  16. corvette81

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    So I shouldn’t report violations unless I represent or I am the copyright owner?
     
  17. Leeloo

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    I feel like this has been already answered:
    As a rule, you should always ask the author for permission in advance if you want to use their stuff, that's just a reasonable thing to do.
     
  18. NOCARGO

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    contradicts ↓

    result : loophole ( ? )
     
  19. Leeloo

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    If you notice something, please notify the author first. But you can always submit a report no matter which violation you notice, we review them individually and will notify you if any additional details are required.
     
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  20. corvette81

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    Ah thanks will keep that in mind and try to report violations to the copyright owner where possible also.

    thanks for clarification I think I understand it a lot better now.
     
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