Good question: E5-1620 4.2ghz, 16gb 2133 ram,gtx970 OR I5-2500k, 1866 ram, gtx970

How many cars will I get with E5-1620 and with I5-2500k. Thank you! Maybe someone knows. Currently I own i3-2100 and it's playable with 5 cars at around 40fps or something.

 

Hello, I think the Xeon will spawn more cars without stuttering because its has 4(cores) / 8(threads) while the i5 only has 4/4, based on how the game spawn each car by each core, maybe someone with a 4/8 CPU can confirm this.

By my side i can spawn:
*up to 5 D15 trucks
*90-95% CPU usage
*on gridmap
*colisions activated

Consider I have an i5 3330@3.0 GHz (4/4), but remember 3rd gen core series has a little more performance per core than the 2gen core series(1620 and 2500K based on).

 

I have the I3 9100F and I can spawn 5 cars without problems.
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If you can run 5 cars at 40fps, just use only 4 cars.

 

It seems to me as if you would like to buy the components you are talking about. But at the moment even new AMD CPUs are more powerful than an old used Intel CPU, whilst having a very low price (maybe even under a used Intel CPU, because Intel CPUs sell for a lot more on the aftermarket than they are worth). I just suggest to check if there aren't any better value components that might potentially be more future proof. With a new Ryzen 3 3100 for 120$ you should get 6-8 Ai cars with 30-40 fps (if not being limited by the GPU). You could also look out for better value use CPUs (At least in physics benchmark: 1 thread = 1car (more details below)).

What you really want to look at is the in-game benchmark, which runs graphics less. This tells you how many cars you can really spawn at once. Whilst this might not be the real word performance, because this doesn't represent the fps, but only the amount of cars the game can compute without being to slow for realtime physics. So you could end up with something way less (than the physics benchmark). I have compared my pc with the suggested CPU and got that: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-3100-vs-Intel-i7-2600/3715vs1.

The Ryzen 3 3100 would be over twice as powerful. With 8 cars in-game (7 Ai cars) my computer has between 20-30 fps (And I know it's a CPU bottleneck.). If we scale that a configuration with the Ryzen 3 3100 should run at about 50-60 fps. I think you could run the game at constant 60 fps with 7 cars (6 Ai cars) (assuming your GPU is powerful enough). Also the Ryzen 3 3100 comes with a powerful enough stock cooler and you can overclock it. Another argument to be made is lower power consumption, which would result in the rig being cheaper to operate.

I do not know if you want to buy a used rig or buy all the components alone and this is just assumptions so take it with a grain of salt. I hope this helped you.

 

I decided to get I7-4790K. I've seen a test that it can spawn up to 15 cars at once with playable fps.
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Thank you everyone!!!

 

Remember those are frames when the graphics are not running, the CPU has to do quite a lot of work when playing the game. You will be able to use about 5-6 cars whilst maintaining 60fps.
Do make sure you have a good cooler, it'll be good to get that i7 4790k to a high clock speed.

 

I will take something to cool for around 50$ . Yes, I'm going to oc it till like 4.2-4.4 ghz.

 

I just wanna know: How much did it cost?
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I personally would've told you to get a Ryzen 5 3600 for the same price, because it has more performance and I've seen examples with 60fps whilst having 10 ai cars. You could even overclock it a little with the stock cooler.
But it's your decision, even though you could have gotten a way better value CPU for the same price.

 

If you could do this go for it, the new AMD mainboards are way more flexible than Intel boards in therms of CPU upgrade(up to 16C/32T for a decent one), probably that i7 is the best CPU in the 4th gen that the board is compatible with(4C/8T)

 

I'm not personally thinking about upgrading, but you're right. If he has a mainboard that supports this CPU it may be a better deal for him (I thought that wasn't the case, because Intel needs a new socket for like every two revisions.). AM4 will even support Ryzen 4000, but sadly Ryzen 5000 will use another socket (You probably can't push that much data through so few pins.).

 

I'm just hoping he got a good deal with the 4790k. The 4790k is still competitive, probably only 20% behind the i7 7700k. This gap can be closed with overclocking the 4790k (albeit the 7700k can overclock higher)..

My advice.. Keep the 4790k and when you want to upgrade go used AM4 and a 3x00 CPU (zen2).. But if you want to go new then please try and hold out for DDR5.. you don't want to invest in old ram. (coming from the guy with 32gb DDR3).

The 4790k you will be able to keep for a couple of years. (depending on your use case)

 

You have to wait till 2022 for DDR5 to become easily accessible so you would have to wait a while and you'd have to upgrade to AM5(?), because you would need a Ryzen 5000 that will get a new socket.

 

Sorry, I'm not acceptable with AMD vendor.
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Thank you so much!

 

What the f*ck does that mean?
You did not provide enough detail for things like already having a compatible motherboard, price point, etc. This means I had to guess my recommendations (I based them on stuff like the fact, that you want to buy used hardware, etc.), which has a high probability of me guessing things like price point, etc. totally wrong. If I guessed that wrong, then my recommendations won't really help you. But I think you weren't really open to suggestions, that went against your general belief (That you think AMD Cpu's are bad quality, etc. but that *again* is only a guess.). I am not offended by your decision, but I think, that you ignore my recommendations, because it seems like I didn't guess the circumstances right (Which is a high possibility concerning the fact, that you didn't provide enough information.). The way I interpret your post is that you aren't open to other things and lowkey rant about people that recommend stuff, that is against your opinion.
I hope my suggestions at least helped you in some way (Like having a reason to express your hate against AMD.).

 

I have the same with i3 6100

 

my i7-9700k 16gb ram rtx 2070 super and spawn 10 cars maximum, but my PC bug if we do 7.

10 cars in Italy = 45-50fps
7 cars in Italy (recommanded) = 65fps
no spawn in Italy, west coast and other = 85-90 fps

 

Just got I7 4790K with 16gb of Team group Vulcan and Dark memory with Noctua 9DL. Thank you everyone!
Currently running it at 4.4ghz it's enough for me.

 

It looks like you can run 1 or 2 less cars then the number of threads at playable frame rates, sounds like a good rule of thumb.

4core/8 thread = 5 - 6 cars playable FPS

6 cores/12 threads = 9 - 10 cars playable FPS

8 cores/16 threads = 13 - 14 cars playable FPS

16 cores/ 32 threads = 29 - 30 cars playable FPS

etc.

But there’s no way for me to test if it scales like that, it could be 1 less car the more up in cores / threads or vice versa...

 

On my 6 core Intel i7-8750H I can run 16 cars at 60 fps with max settings.

This might be because the computer offloads some computational tasks to the GPU? (RTX 2060) Honestly on paper it shouldn't work because the dude with the 2070 can only run 10.

Just goes to show that you dont really know until you test.

Your computer can probably do like 1-2 cars at 60 fps decent settings. You really should buy a new one if you want to play beamng.
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Yeah really. AMD Ryzen 3 and 4 series chips are so much better than intel. Honestly intel's chips are crap when compared to Ryzen. You can either get a 700 dollar i9-9900K with 8 cores, or the Ryzen Equivalent for 400 with 12 cores.

 

16 cars on a 6 core? Can you post a video or pic? Physics have to be at 100% speed, you can get that with physics lowered to 50% but I’m skeptical at 100% we need proof in this thread

you said I run 1 or 2 cars in beamng with the rig in my signature, if your not being sarcastic for attention I question your purpose here, do you play BeamNG? A Ryzen 2700 Can run about 14 cars 100% physics, your welcome to qualify that statement too.

As for intel there IPC and latency is superior to AMD within BeamNG tends to yield better performance so 16 cars on a 6 core / 12 thread intel CPU isn’t too far fetched but proof of playable FPS (above 45fps) with 16 cars would be great