General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    It wasn't directly but I believe he has said something in the past about taking his driving test or picking out his first car. So he may be old enough now, but just barely.
     
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  2. 95Crash

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    Okay then =/

    Anyways, I have a question for you.

    Do you think anybody can have a good experience in a self driving car?
     
  3. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    To the extent that sitting and doing nothing can be a good experience.
     
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  4. 95Crash

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    I don't think self-driving cars are for me honestly.
     
  5. Bird10

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    So we were driving by this small Honda r&d building near where I live and I saw this. I have no idea what it is but it was a small, angular sports car.

    IMG_5441.jpg IMG_5442.jpg
     
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  6. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I'm looking at Polish classic car classifieds from 2013 I stumbled upon, and noticing how the prices have risen.

    For example, you could have had a well-maintained 1978 Eldorado for 28k PLN. Now a pre-downsizing Eldo costs that much for one that needs a restoration.

    Or a 30k PLN 1967 Volvo P1800S, or 28.5k PLN 1966 V8 Ford Mustang. Now that kind of money only buys you project-grade examples, not running and driving cars.

    I also found a decent 1985 Jag XJS for 15.5k. Nowadays, the cheapest ones that need a restoration are about ten grand more.

    A 1979 911 Targa for 60k PLN? Forget about it in 2020. You'll need well over a hundred thousand nowadays.

    If you want a low-mileage Saab 99, you need to prepare more than the 10k PLN you needed back in 2013.

    Indeed, the prices have risen.
     
  7. HadACoolName

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    Holden made the inevitable announcement today that the Holden brand will be axed in 2021 & General Motors will be pulling out of Australia altogether. Farewell Holden 1856-2021
     
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  8. SuperAusten64

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    To the surprise of no one.
     
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  9. HadACoolName

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    Exactly, completely foreseen but pretty somber now that its happened.
     
  10. MisterKenneth

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    Why? Are Holdens not selling well?

    And I didn't know SAAB had anything to do with GM until now.
     
  11. SuperAusten64

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    GM bought 50% of Saab in 1989, then bought the rest in 2000. Ten years later, due to high costs (read: making the cars too good), GM sold Saab to a small company named Spyker, and after a year they went bankrupt. Now a Chinese-Swedish (but mostly Chinese) company called NEVS owns the rights to the 9-3 (they had the rights to the Saab name, but after going bankrupt and restructuring in 2014 Saab AB, the original airplane company Saab Automobile was formerly a part of, decided to take them away). Using the 18-year chassis, they're now making China-only electric cars. All of this because GM didn't want Saab spending as much money as they were to make the platforms they had been given good.
     
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  12. skodakenner

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    The other problem why spyker failed was because GM activly made them fail by not giving them permission to use valuable patents and so on.
     
  13. SuperAusten64

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    Yes, it was when the head of Spyker attempted to get funding from Chinese investors that GM threatened to block rights to the patents. They claimed they didn't want their patents getting into the hands of Chinese companies or something like that.
     
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  14. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Saab was spending its money "inefficiently", with its design, engineering, and purchasing functions operating independently with regards to completely customer-transparent parts like seat frames, window lifts, wiring, etc. Sometimes they could end up paying several times more than any other GM division for parts which functioned identically (at best) in all perceptible ways. I can understand wanting to keep it quirky and Swedish and distinction from other GM cars on the same platform (in fact I'd consider it a tragedy if that were lost), but things which even hardcore modifiers are never really going to care about could and have still been shared for a significant cost savings.
     
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  15. Potato

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    Teaching myself to drift FWD cars. Working on my technique. I need more speed to do some right proper slides, but first I have to ensure I'm competent enough to keep it out of the ditch.
    Off camera I was able to do a complete 360, but the attempt to spin it around on camera just didn't have the momentum. Amateur mistake.
     
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  16. MisterKenneth

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    So basically, in a way, GM doomed Saab?
     
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  17. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    You just showed yourself why you shouldn't go for your lightless nighttime bicycle rides.
     
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  18. Potato

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    I don't often take lightless nighttime bicycle rides on interstate highways.
     
  19. HadACoolName

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    Over the last year, every month Holden has posted new "Lowest sales" records. They're currently at their lowest sales since 1948. Even Mercedes Benz is outselling Holden in Australia.

    The only Holden that is selling is the Colorado (Isuzu) & its not selling brilliantly.

    The Commodore (Opel), Astra hatch (Opel) were axed late last year.

    The Equinox (Chevy), Acadia (GMC), Trax (Chevy) & Trailblazer (Isuzu) are selling in extremely low volumes. Not enough to justify the continuation of sales.
     
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  20. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Saab wasn't making their cars too good.
    They were making OK cars at a high cost.
     
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