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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MrAnnoyingDude, Sep 28, 2019.

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What should AMM's Australian cars be called?

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  2. Beaufort

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  1. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Those were compacts.
     
  2. GotNoSable!

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    """""Compacts""""" (Not very compact compacts, around that size though. I'm a cretin and I don't know the lettering for size segments.)
     
  3. MrAnnoyingDude

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    By interior volume, they were and still are compacts.
     
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    That's what I meant by saying what I said.
     
  5. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Another idea of mine is the difference between Gavril Europe and Bruckell Europe.

    Gavril would end up having different model lines for different countries - by the outbreak of WWII, it would have 4 models in Germany, 4 in the UK, 3 in France and 2 in Italy, with different subsidiaries having their own engine designs. Italian and French Gavril would keep having own models until the mid-60s, German and British - until the 70s.

    Meanwhile, Bruckell would have one consolidated model range - and thus push Gavril townards unification of their range by showing that it can be done cheaper when you have one model in Germany, the UK, France and Italy.
     
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    I've just had the idea that just like Rover shared Honda mechanicals in their cars, the fake British Leyland would use Hirochi platforms in their designs, and market them under different brands and bodywork.

    For example, they would have an 80s sedan based on the Hirochi Paramount (Nissan Maxima with some Mazda 929 and Miteubishi Sigma cues) sold as a fictional Austin, MG and Rover, all with some visual differences.
     
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    Why not Ibishu? A fake British Leyland would probably get into rebadging boring appliance-like vehicles and only Ibishu would be so desperate to strike a deal with them only to get a foothold in Europe and circumvent import tariffs.

    This leaves headroom for Hirochi to have some partnership with Charmand later on (see the PSA-Toyota and PSA-Mitsubishi type of deals)
     
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  8. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Good point. Maybe Ibishu would be the right partner for the job.

    As for Charmand, I can see it cooperating with both Hirochi and the Swedish brands. Maybe even add a bit of work with a smaller American corporation, in FCA or DaimlerChrysler style.
     
  9. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I've thought a bit about BeamNG's version of MGRover, and here are my ideas:

    - Early 80s - partnership with Hirochi, in order to let the Japanese company get an European foothold comparable to Ibishu's. Worked pretty well in the 80s, but then fell apart in the 90s when Hirochi decided that they got the recognition they needed.

    - Mid-to-late-90s - Selling brands and Chor. Lyons (faux-Jag) goes to AMM, ETK buys the faux-Mini and faux-Land Rover, and Bruckell gets Chorley and the faux-MG.

    First they stop the development of a new C-segment car, inspired by the Rover 25/45 and Fiat Bravo/Brava, to avoid competition with their own Euro cars, but launch a new E-segment faux-MG/Chorley for 1994.

    Bruckell then starts a plan similar to Rover's 90s 35/55/75 plan and pre-Marchionne Lancia, ultimately making a D-segment car (Rover 55 plan plus Lancia Lybra plus Alfa 156) for 1999, E-segment car (75+Thesis+166) for 2001 and a C-segment one (35+Delta+147+Giulietta) for 2005, with somewhat reworked versions for the fake MG. They manage to make another D-segment car for 2008, but the financial crisis forces Bruckell to sell the company.

    - Late 2000s - Chinese ownerehip. The Chorley brand gets closed after their products reach the end of their useful lives (2010, 2013 and 2015, respectively), and new products are basically mixes of the Chinese MGs and Marchionne-era Fiats.
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    Also, @Youngtimer had the idea of Glenn for a fictional Austin/Morris, @Blijo had Fintray for an old MG/Triumph-like brand, I have Lyons for Jaguar and Warwick for Wolseley, but does anybody have an idea for modern MG and Land/Range Rover?

    And we need ideas for the sub-Jargl and above-Jargl Swedish brands' names.
     
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    how do modders companies, like Nardelli, Auriga and Fintray fit in? I guess the creators of them can decide.
     
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    I've always imagined Nardelli as being a jack of all trades. Aside from their crash test cart and offroad rims, maybe they manufacture industrial equipment like trailers and "Upfits" for Gavril vehicles, as well as odds and ends like gasoline tanks and battery packs and conveyor belts and PCBs and all other sorts of stuff. Probably dipped their toes into the compact car market in 2014 or something, I don't know.
     
  12. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Why compact cars? Why enter such a cut-throat business?
     
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    Brand recognition, and the fact that some are unwilling to buy a car that's not from their home country.
    Think of the Tata Nano.
     
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    Autobello is there on the Italian market, and Nardelli still wouldn't be recognizable enough.

    And the Nano was a flop, only possible because its manufacturer already had cash to spare.
     
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    since we've had a kind of "cannon" -pun intended expansion to ibishu, with the Phoulkon turret mod, why not develop their lore a bit?

    Here's my idea of the early history:
    Iminaka Industrial was a manufacturer of industrial equipment, manufacturing industrial steam engines before WW2. During the war, they were tasked with making up-to-date weaponry and fighter planes for the Japanese military.
    in 1941, Imanaka Industrial was tasked with building a light reconnaissance vehicle for the military, based upon the mechanical design of a captured american vehicle. this resulted in the "high ground clearance prototype" (often shortened to HP) which, based on its name and its reputation for less-than-adequate shock absorbers in the early models, earned it the nickname "ホッピ" or "hoppi".
    after the war was ended, Iminaka Industrial was liquidated, its factories, and many of its employees were sent to other businesses.

    One of these businesses was Jamahisho Manufacturing, which had previously made bicycles and rickshaws, among other miscellaneous products. Despite not being involved in the production of military supplies, Jamahisho Manufacturing was not so lucky in the war. Having been the target of one of the US's nuclear bombs, most of the city of Jamahisho was laid to waste.
    But demand for affordable transport for the masses was needed. Luckily, Jamahisho Manufacturing obtained one of the factories previously part of Iminaka Industrial, and many of the employees (and tooling) used for making piston engines with it. With this experience, they were able to create a simple, inexpensive, 3- wheeled "cycle-truck" powered by a single cylinder, 9 hp engine. this became known as the "pigeon", and though the exact origin of this name is unknown, it is commonly believed to refer to the carrier pigeons used in WW2. this version of the pigeon was built from 1949 to 1969, a
    fter which it was discontinued in favor of larger 4-wheeled kei class utility vehicles, until a new model was introduced in 1982.
    By 1954, the business was (relatively) financially stable, so they decided to diversify their production, by firstly reintroducing the hoppi into a civilian suitable version, deciding to rename it to "hopper".

    and yes, the city names are entirely made up.
     
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    Bingo-bango-bongo we left out Infiniti and Nissan iirc.
    Nissan=Mirada (Yes I know Ibishu made the closest thing we have to a skyline but we don't have a nissan so here we go.)
    Horizon=Infiniti.
    Did a little thing in vehicle suggestions as well.
     
  17. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Hirochi is basically the Nissan of Beam, with its CVTs.cAnd Horizon seems a bit... off.

    Not to mention that both are actual car names.
     
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    Oh I always assumed it was mitsubishi! I'm the large stupid. Ignore the Nissan proposal then, but what do you think a better name for Horizon would be?
     
  19. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I don't know about the name, but it should rather be a mix of Acura, Amati (Mazda's unreleased 90s luxury brand) and a bit of Infiniti.

    A notch below Chaparel (BeamNG Lexus+Infiniti), but still above normal Japanese sedans and CUVs.
     
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    Would Legion be a fitting name for the Infiniti/Acura/Amati spinoff then? If not I may make a completely fictional (Not based on ANYTHING) stand-alone brand with that name because why not.
     
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