Advice on first PC build (already parts selected)

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by Brugink, Mar 3, 2019.

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Is this a good PC config

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  2. Maybe

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  3. NO

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  4. Please never post here agian

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  1. Brugink

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    I wanted to build a capable PC for a long time and finally decided to look up parts, here is the parts list. I already calculated a total price of all items (the PC and accessories) and concluded that it would fit within my budget (barely though).

    Seen as this i my first build I`m not completely certain about all the parts selected and any feedback will be appreciated, if anything is found which could be interchanged for something better without a large price increase or if I did something completely nonsensical please let me know. If you have a question about why I selected a part ask away, I`d be more than happy to explain.

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    A important factor in this build was the potential for a overclock on the CPU and GPU, to keep them relevant longer and the fact that I`ll probably will only use 1440p max. The original idea was to build a 5 year lasting gaming PC for 1080p and/or 1440p

    Any and all replies will be appreciated, if not problems or suggestions arise I`ll potentially be capable to posting the finished product this week (due to next day delivery).
     
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    Good, except a few things you could possibly change:

    You might find an RTX2070 for a similar price. I mean STRIX are amazing but unfortunately not this amazing. You could save about 100 bucks on a Ryzen 5 2600X and a fitting mainboard if you're okay with 15% less single thread performance when overclocked.
    Also, the mainboard you selected is a small ITX form factor and a big ATX board. If you use a big one you'll have more PCIE slots and stuff in case you ever need various expansion cards. Usually nearly identical boards are available in both form factors so there's probably an ATX counterpart to the one you have there.
    I can personally recommend the Das Keyboard Prime 13 and the Logitech G402. They're about as good as it gets when it comes to a keyboard and mouse. Only tradeoff is they only have white and blue lighting respectively rather than full RGB.
    Oh and Noctua thermal paste seems to be better than that from Arctic. And if you really want to overclock your CPU quite a bit you could consider a Noctua NH-U12S rather than the 212 Evo. Costs more but also has more performance and is quieter.
     
  3. Brugink

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    About the GPU I fully understand why a 2070 would be recommended, but the cheapest 2070 is still ~€100,- more and I failed to see the necessity due to the overclock ability of the 2060 (found treads where it matched the 1080 ti) and the fact that I`ll stay at low resolutions, If a 2070 is indeed significantly better (keeping price performance in mind) I might switch.
    The motherboard is my mistake, I meant the regular ATX board but I added the parts to pcpartpicker afterward, and accidentally picked the wrong one (should now be updated)
    Further the AMD argument is valid, but I heard a lot of not too positive stories about AMD (mainly about the GPU`s though), and while the motherboards and CPU`s are probably more than decent I`ll honestly feel more comfortable with an intel system, futhermore if the max performance of the AMD setup is 15% less that is a decent performance drop and I`d like to prevent having to get a new motherboard and CPU for as long as possible, furthermore the current motherboard uses the newest chip-set and will most likely support one of two future intel CPU generation of which I might get a deal on a secondhand 9th or future gen i7/9 in a few years.
    While the keyboard is a bit too expensive for my liking, the mouse is most certainly a good suggestion which I`ll look into further.
    Finally regarding the CPU fan, I know the Noctua is one of the best air coolers and it is good value for your money but it is still a bit expensive for my liking and the fans look 'gorgeous' (not trying to be nitpicking but they look like there straight for the early nineties), futher the Evo will be good enough for now seen as I won`t overclock immediately, I plan to start overclocking once I feel the system starts to lack in performance (to keep the warranty valid for as long as possible) at that point I can always exchange the relatively inexpensive Evo, which will also be easier because I`ll have a case to look at for a cooler location among others.

    -edit: I changed to mouse out for the one you suggested, thought I`d quickly share
     
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  4. Jetpackturtle

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    You don't need the expansion drive, it'll just be a pain. Get a larger size SATA drive instead.
    The 860 Evo is a great choice though.
    That's about all I have for advice.
     
  5. Brugink

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    would changing the ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2060 OC out for a MSI RTX 2070 Armour 8G be worth it? It would trow me over my budget but it it is significantly more future proof it should be worth it.

    The current SATA drive is large enough, the 'expansion drive' is a external hard drive which I`ll use to move steam games and then will be used for backups, it will be no part of the PC itself, just something I needed and decided to get with the rest.
     
  6. Brugink

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    well buying it now (with the 2060 seen as the 2070 was simply too expensive if I wanted a warranty)
     
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  7. A Turbocharged Turbocharger

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    I say get a nvme ssd. You can get one for around the same price with double the read/write. Strix cards are great, but they are expensive new. You also might want to consider a gtx card, as ray tracing hikes the price quite a bit and isn't really supported anywhere. However, RTX cards are more futureproof. If you're planning on overclocking, I'd advise a 120mm aio for that cpu.
     
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    120mm AIOs don't really give you much over a 120mm air cooler though. It makes a difference to have a 240mm or 360mm if you're feeling lucky.
     
  9. A Turbocharged Turbocharger

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    I beg to differ. For a similar price, they have liquid cooling which is an advantage for Ryzen processors
     
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    Liquid coolers are often a lot quieter though, and that itself can be a huge reason to go with it. I have a 240mm cooler on my i7 4790k and it keeps it nice and cool. My video card is liquid cooled too.
     
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    Eh, my cooler has a single NF-F12 and that's really as quiet as a CPU cooler gets. On a video card that helps quite a bit though, mine is the loudest thing in my PC.
     
  12. Funky7Monkey

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    The NH-D15 will give 240mm AIOs a run for their money. The only time liquid cooling comes into it's own is custom with multiple rads. I wholly recommend the D15 over AIOs as long as there is space, it'll be quieter at idle, because there's no pump noise and the fans can slow to silent, and will be comparable under load, again vebecau of the pump, and the fans on the rad.
     
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  13. A Turbocharged Turbocharger

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    I agree that the Noctura coolers are excellent, but a liquid AIO looks a thousand times better
     
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    Performance versus A E S T H E T I C. I know I'd go for performance. Especially when the performance option is objectively better long term.
     
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  15. A Turbocharged Turbocharger

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    Noctura coolers are A S G O O D as a 120mm for a similar price. I’d choose a Kraken M22 or x42 for performance and looks
     
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  16. Jetpackturtle

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    lmfo im sitting here with the default cooler
     
  17. A Turbocharged Turbocharger

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    I use a wraith, so I don’t really know why I’m involved here
    I guess just to give my two cents
    Hint hint

    I’m not Jay
     
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  18. Jackets64

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    I do suggest this, wait til mid-year and get a Ryzen 3000 chip, much better performance for the dollar.
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    The motherboard will be cheaper too!
     
  19. A Turbocharged Turbocharger

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    If you wait for ryzen 3000 to come out, you can probably pick up a pinnacle ridge for a lot cheaper, and a 1st gen for even less
     
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    I have heard that the 1st and 2nd gen ryzen's don't perform as well as they could in Beam, I'm hoping that Ryzen 3000 changes that.
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    Yes, more tech nerds that watch tech nerds on youtube!
     
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