General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. skodakenner

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    So after my brother confronted my parents about buying a skyline we basically had a 3 hour argument between them (wich was good to watch) so the premise was he wanted japanese my parents wanted german so they met with a alfa as they are rare yet safe and we have dealers around where we life because the next subaru or toyota dealer is nearly 50 kilometers away wich isnt practical and the next alfa dealer is next to work so that would be practical. So were now looking for a alfa giulietta mito or 159 all of wich are around 10k with around 50k kms and 170hp wich is way more than enough for those cars
     
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  2. Slammington

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    Definitely have a few thousand euro saved up for maintenance. Alfas are very touchy cars and they do need plenty of work. Having said that they look gorgeous and the driving experience, as far as I've heard, is fantastic :)
     
  3. Potato

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    You've got yourself a race if I actually do. Last week I wanted to buy a pickup truck.
    Chargers are really the only thing I can see myself going to from vics. Nothing else fits the bill. Neither do chargers really, but it's as close as you're gonna get.
     
  4. skodakenner

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    Yeah we are trying to get one with a year waranty from a dealer so we hopefully dont have to much to pay for that. Also they are really nice to ride. On another note i recently got to drive in alot of nice cars a jaguar xj with the ling wheelbase a range rover tdv8 and a alfa giulia wich all drove like a dream and its good to have a guy you know who works at a jaguar land rover dealership
     
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  5. MotherTrucker02

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    Speaking of Chargers, anybody have 20 grand they can lend me? This thing looks awesome. AWD for the winter, then take out a fuse and have a fun RWD V8 for the summer.

    Edit: Nevermind I want this instead.
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    Much more practical.
     
  6. Codeslamer

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    Your brother must be pretty open minded to new suggestions then, considering he went from wanting a 90's Japanese car to a new Alfa. Sure, they make alot of nice cars, and I'd definitely like to drive one at some point. But I don't think I'd ever want to own one. @Slammington stated the one big reason to that. Sure, they're not exactly rotary levels of unreliability, but I don't think I've ever seen an Alfa go by which wasn't making a noise it shouldn't have been. And I've only ever seen newer ones...
     
  7. aljowen

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    Parents were concerned about reliability and dealerships. So they say no to Japanese car, and say yes to an Alfa Romeo, which will likely be half as reliable and chug twice as much fuel.

    It's a good job you have local Alfa dealerships, you're gonna need them :p
     
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  8. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Not so fast. Heat kills electric cars like you wouldn't believe. Car and Driver ran a mid-level Model S at Virginia International Raceway during one of their Lightning Lap tests; they loafed around the track on their outlap, didn't mash the throttle until they entered the final "speed regulator" corner complex, and the car still lasted for about half its timed lap (equivalent to about one lap on a more normal-length racetrack) before going into limp mode. An electric car that powerful is going to have a lot of heat to deal with.
     
  9. aljowen

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    Sure, but it will manage 1/4 of a mile just fine. Which is basically the Demons home.

    Having said that. Tesla's all have one thing in common, which is decent but not exceptional handling. The heavy batteries mean (comparatively) nothing in a straight line, because the electric motors have so much torque that it makes no difference. However, on the corners, that extra weight takes effect. Due to additional packaging flexibility they are able to minimise that by keeping it low in the vehicle, however it is still there, and the tyres still have to deal with it. Whether the additional acceleration of an EV manages to outweigh that, should certainly be interesting.

    So if you want to go around a tight twisty track fast, a Caterham or Lotus (Or a 4C on the topic of Alfa's) is still gonna be your best bet, probably for a while. However, for drag racing in terms of street cars, electric motors and 4 wheel drive will likely give the edge.

    From a daily driving perspective, most people aren't pulling max G's around corners, however a lot of people may be flooring it out of sliproads as well as overtaking. These are situations where EV's typically excel due to plentiful instant Torque. Even slow EV's are faster than typical daily drivers.
     
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  10. opkraut

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    For street cars, I'm sure the electric motors are going to be advantageous, but the moment you start getting into dedicated drag-strip builds, electric cars start losing a lot of their advantage due to tire limitations and how easy/difficult it is to gain horsepower. There's a point at which the car has too much power for the tires to successfully transmit to the ground - that's where electric and internal combustion engines are evened out. ICE's gain an advantage when you start getting into horsepower numbers as well. Making an electric car produce as much horsepower as a Top Fuel or Funny Car is going to be a monumental feat.

    That being said, I highly doubt the NHRA or any other official drag racing series is ever going to go fully electric. Half of the reason why people go to drag races is to experience the insane noise. I would say to hear the noise but that doesn't do it justice.
    It's loud enough to shake your eyeballs, and you feel it in your chest. It's unreal. With an electric dragster, all you'd hear is, well, rednecks shouting obscene words at whoever is driving it.
     
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  11. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Honestly, I would hate to see ICE cars confined to the drag strip. If anything will ever inspire me to give in to everyone who thinks I should and learn to be a mechanic, this will probably be it, because this world needs someone who can tune any ICE car to outrun an electric car one size/price class higher and still have it come out reliable. That guy in the Model 3 won't be so smug after a stock-looking Kia casually blows him off the road like nothing.
     
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  12. Pyro Shepherd

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    Well,I got two things. Thing number one,I tried to start the old Civic that sat in my backyard for 3 years,blew the engine instantly. Second,when I was riding my Grom today my exhaust fell off. Now my bike doesn't have an exhaust. It comes from the headers now. The idle sounds like shit,but when it's not idling its good. I think its time for a new exhaust. When I was riding,I just heard "Clinkalingading" and then the bike got hella loud. I went back,grabbed the exhaust,tossed it in a trashcan,then rode home.
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    Why would you want a donk?
     
  13. MotherTrucker02

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    It was sarcasm, the only use I would have for that car is putting some smaller wheels/ better tires on it and beating it to shit off road, it would be a good Gambler 500 car if it weren't so expensive.
     
  14. Pyro Shepherd

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    Makes sense.
     
  15. skodakenner

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    It was theyre tradeoff because he said either he is allowed to buy an alfa or h will just ignore them and get a impreza
     
  16. GLion

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    The new Camry without the yellow reflectors on the headlights...
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    Also looks like it's becoming a bit luxurious in the back seat like the Asian models..
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  17. SixSixSevenSeven

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    i thought that part time system freaked out when tampered with, dont think its as simple as pull a fuse, most modern systems dont even have a fuse to pull
     
  18. aljowen

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    Yeah, I have been to a drag strip before, jet powered dragster was the loudest at that event. And I would agree that people tend to lose interest without the sound. Cause frankly drag racing doesn't really have much else going for it from a spectator point of view.

    As for electric Motors, it's like ice, depends how you gear them. More torque your motor can produce, the lower the gear ratio you can use in order to get perfect traction. I think it is possible that electric vehicles will become fastest in drag racing, cause torque plus no /fewer gear changes can be useful.

    It's also the one motorsport that Tesla's currently do very well in. Anything with corners and they fall behind hybrid systems.
     
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  19. Slammington

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    How bad of an idea is it to buy a 1994 Suzuki Swift GTI for around 1500 euro as a first car?
     
  20. ¿Carbohydration?

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    I just heard about the Tesla Truck doing 0-60 in 5 seconds.

    Finally a truck that wont take 10 eons to pass another car.
     
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