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GPU Upgrade, Will it Help?

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by Occam's Razer, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. Occam's Razer

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    I've got a two-year-old Dell XPS 8300, with all stock parts. I'm somewhat surprised at how well this runs BeamNG, all things considered. Still, I can't run any content-rich maps without noticeable lag, or any map at all with SSAO (not that I particularly need or want it, but just to give you a benchmark).

    Specs (according to DXDiag):

    • CPU: Intel Core i5-2300 @ 2.80 GHz (4 CPUs)
    • GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6450
    • RAM: 6 GB

    I've heard the HD 7750 or similar models recommended as upgrades on the cheap, and have eyed the thing a little. From what I gather, this wouldn't help simulate more vehicles, but would aid with visualizing maps.

    So, my question, would this upgrade be worth it? Would I genuinely see a clearly visible difference in running maps, and eliminate most visible lag (default screen resolution, middle-range quality settings, postFX/HDR on, SSAO off)? Is it overall the most recommended route?


    P.S. I'm sure someone will suggest that I should instead build my own computer. While I won't completely rule this out as a possibility, I know near nothing of computers, let alone of building them. Moreover, I've got far too much stuff on this one, so the chances of replacing it outright are slim at best (unless I can move the computer's storage over).

    P.S.(again) I apologize if someone has presented these specs before, and been given ample advice for how to deal with their problem.
     
  2. Bubbleawsome

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    inb4 everyone, I have an xps 8100. Yes it will. To max the game you will need more like a HD7950/r9-280x/GTX760, but a 7770 is really a minimum. While I am an AMD fan I must suggest the GTX 650ti boost as a great card. Expect ~60 fps normal, PostFX off, 30 maxed.

    I could build you a computer. :p But I've been a computer addict for a year and I would still have issues with the finer points of building a machine. (RAID etc.) It's a truly massive subject, but not nearly impossible.


    tl:dr The CPU is still strong, GPU was weak. They sell the studio xps as a workstation, not a gaming PC, mine had a i7 870 and a HD 5770.

    EDIT: Have you upgraded your psu? If you haven't you will want an upgrade. Maybe a 400w. You can keep asking questions, I'm just trying to fit as much as possible into one post.
     
  3. JackAttak

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    A GPU upgrade is certainly the best thing you can do to help your PC. In fact, I have a Dell XPS 8700 special edition which has great specs except for the GTX 660 that came with it. I'd like to upgrade to something like a 780 Ti for it sometime. If you can get one, a new graphics card will really help you.
     
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    a 660 isnt a bad card btw, not the best, but its definitely better than the gt 620 (which the majority of all pre-builts generally use on their "gaming pc's")
     
  5. Cwazywazy

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    If you're looking to keep things cheap, a 2GB 7750 will do fine for you. (I had one, runs Drive pretty well.) I recommend getting a GTX 650ti or something. You could look for a used card on eBay too. (A 7770 would be pretty good)
     
  6. Occam's Razer

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    Minimum is good enough for me, but I probably have the budget to go $30-$60 over, so I've looked into the 650ti as well. However, as I'm not adept at computer science/building/repair/upgrading (see above), I ultimately want the one that'll give me the least hassle for installation. Placement, cooling, power distribution, driver installation, etc. should be as painless as is feasible. Granted, I could have the thing installed for me.

    I'm assuming this is a power output thing. I don't know what my computer has at present, or from what company to start looking for replacements.
     
  7. Bubbleawsome

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    the 650ti boost is great, the 650ti is ok and the 650 sucks. Some best buys will install stuff like that, and while they overcharge they do it pretty well. I trust best buy, frays electronics and microcenter as a tech store, not much else. Try finding a card on newegg then buy from where ever it is cheap.

    The forum I have to recommend is anandtech. They helped me got my crap together, and are friendlier than TPU. All IMO of course.
     
  8. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Placement is limited to: theres the slot, it goes in it :p
    Most manufacturers put a cooler on adequete for non overclocked cards.
    Power distribution you will want to check what the card requires (varies) and what your power supply has left over (might be able to use the power cable from old card, might need to buy some molex adaptors, some cards even come with molex adaptors).
    Drivers will be on CD. I run NVidia kit and only have experience with NVidia kit. Never had issues with driver installation.
     
  9. Bubbleawsome

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    No. Never use molex on a new card. I know the adapters are supposed to work but I don't trust anything over $50 to them. Also, OEM supplies suck. They "can" power it, but not well. My old DELL PSU would have been enough to power my current card (7770 vs 5770) but there is no way I am going to trust my entire CPU, mobo, HDD, GPU, everything, to a 4 year old piece of crap.
     
  10. Occam's Razer

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    So what I've gleaned from this discussion is, sufficient cooling comes with the card, placement should be super simple unless the card is massive, I shouldn't trust the current PSU to do the job, and Best Buy should do a good installation if I want to take the easy but costly route. And don't buy the regular GTX 650, just the ti or boost. Am I right, or did I take part of that incorrectly?
     
  11. Bubbleawsome

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    Yes, preferably the ti boost. Its a single card. List of the best. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...$$$$$$$;14-125-457:$$$$$$$;14-125-467:$$$$$$$

    If you do not plan to overclock go for the superclocked, if you do go for the superclocked or the windforce. I prefer the superclocked.
    Bestbuy will try to oversell a PSU, go for something like this. Maybe a 400-450w.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151124
    (My personal fave.)
     
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