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Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. Inertia

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    Yes, however ours happen to be correct :p
     
  2. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    A lot of it probably has to do with differing definitions. It would appear that, to you, just about anything that has an open bed or could plausibly have been available with an open bed is a "ute", whereas here, the vast majority of those things are called "pickups" or "trucks" in common speech. "Coupe utility" is the official term for a vehicle that has an open bed like a pickup, but is a unibody and shares significant body & chassis hardware with a closed-cargo-area passenger car (i.e. El Camino, Ranchero), but those are so rarely seen around here anymore that most people probably don't know that and just call them some variation of "cartruck". Since those are still somewhat common in Australia, and are the most likely to get high-performance special editions, they're what car guys from everywhere else think of when they hear "ute". I'm also guessing that the lines between the two types of pickups get blurred down there; I've heard of 4x4 and possibly even crew cab "utes" (as in the American definition of ute) and have seen a picture of a 1-ton dually flatbed Ford Falcon, so I have to assume that the two types (car-based and purpose-built) compete against each other in the marketplace with little distinction made between them.
     
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  3. redrobin

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    So the SRT Demon has "only" 840HP.

    With all the hype that surrounded it, that's disappointing. The last Drag-Pak Challenger had 1,000HP. Granted, the Drag-Pak was a drag car only and not street legal, but I don't really care, I feel the principle of the thing remains.

    Oh well...
     
  4. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    On the street, that's quite enough. It's already more than can be reasonably used on the mountain pass (on most mountain roads, you're going to run out of straightaway before you can make full use of that power), and probably enough to win 9 out of 10 stoplight races as well, plus be the big man (or big laugh) at most track days if that's more your style. 1,000 HP, if they could make it street-reliable, would be past the point of lunacy in my opinion.

    Though it would be a good way to annoy Bugatti.
     
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  5. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Thing is. Bugatti don't strictly go for the highest horsepower or the fastest car or the best handling car. There's ways to do all 3 and cost less than the Bugatti. They do go for making an engine that will withstand making that power for more miles then you'll ever put on it, they go for showing off technology and they go for being a status symbol. I don't think they'll be annoying Bugatti much anyway when the Chiron is on 1500hp and theoretically capable of 300mph, though this is not yet achievable with its current road tyres so cannot be confirmed
     
  6. skodakenner

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    The veyron and chiron had top speed on their priorities at first then reliability but i have to say they are probably really reliable at least i hope so
     
  7. redrobin

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    I mean, I understand, but my god did they hype this thing. I expected it to absolutely be past the point of lunacy... but I guess that's what Hennessy is for.
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    Forget everything I said about the Demon. It'll do wheelies.
     
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  8. JBatic

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    someone dynoed a hellcat and found it made a bit more than advertised at 750 hp so the demon could make closer to 900hp and with some tuning could make even more
     
  9. redrobin

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    Any and all caring about what power it makes went out the window as soon as I found out it does wheelies. This is literally the type of car 8 year old me (and admittedly 19 year old me) wants to buy.
     
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  10. JBatic

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    they are bringing it to the ny auto show so I really cant wait to see it in person on friday
     
  11. skodakenner

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    i hope one of those beasts makes it to geiger cars because theyre near me so i can see on in person
     
  12. aljowen

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    I Wonder how they are getting it to do wheelies?
    (note I haven't seen anything related to footage)

    Cause that isn't as simple as hp, they need weight over the rear and grip. Have they filled the boot with sand? Do they have super grippy tires on it? Does it simply have weight distribution that will make it understeer like mad?
     
  13. The Green Hell

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    It's a drag car, it's not meant to go around corners. It's meant to run 9.20 second passes
     
  14. Peterbilt

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    So today I think I drove the slowest thing I've ever driven, a 2012 2wd Nissan Frontier with a four cylinder and a 5 speed.

    Our beatup Cavvy feels like a race car compared to this this thing, even other mini-trucks have never felt this slow, not even older Nissan pickups. Merging onto the interstate and reaching 75, involved a solid minute of foot-to-floor acceleration.

    Representative picture, as I haven't got one of this actual truck.


     
  15. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Rear wheels are larger than stock. Bonkers traction control system. Stripped interior as stock. Lightened engine mounts. COmes with spare set of drag wheels for the front.
     
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  16. Googlefluff

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    "Mini truck"

    lol 'Murica
     
  17. The Green Hell

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    You're from Canada, there must be a HUGE offroading culture there.
     
  18. Googlefluff

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    Meh, not really that I've seen, but I'm sure it exists.

    I'm not saying we're immune to the big truck craze either as we have mostly the same models available here as in the US, I just don't think you'd ever hear someone call any of them a mini-truck. As far as everyone I know is concerned, the mini-truck died out with the last-gen Ranger. They're none too pleased about it either, but of course all the companies just follow the US.

    Anyway, Canadian truck classification as follows:

    Micro-truck:


    Mini-truck:


    Truck:


    Semi-truck:
     
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  19. MotherTrucker02

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    That Honda Ridgeline is not a truck, it is the overweight mother of the Subaru Baja.
     
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  20. redrobin

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    Understeer doesn't matter with a car like this. It's built to go fast in a straight line, and that's it. If you want to road race a Challenger (and you're an idiot if you do), buy the 392 Hemi or the Hellcat.
     
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