You have lost any and all respect from me. You're a complete idiot. Small and powerful engines are the way forward. Long gone are the days of 350 CuIn V8's that made 160 HP. We are in the days of 3.8L Twin-Turbo V8's that make almost 700 HP. "There's no replacement for displacement" is dead. Grow up.
It's not about performance it's about pride. I'd rather have a 6 liter carburated cast iron pushrod engine struggling to make 100hp than a turbocharged 1 liter alloy engine making 3 times the power, sure the tiny lightweight engine might get better gas mileage and performance but it probably wouldn't last long, and you just simply wouldn't be proud to own it. And what's wrong with low power engines?
What do you mean you can't be proud to own a small engine? @amarks240 has that JDM Honda VTEC crap and I'm sure he's very proud to be the owner of it. I, for one, own a V6 Mustang. I'm very proud of it because it's the first car I bought by myself. And there's plenty wrong with low power engines, like the fact that they DO NOT last longer than a smaller engine. Go do some research. Longevity is entirely based on the quality of the parts, not how small they are. Low power engines have low BHP/L while sucking down more fuel than a space shuttle. They're heavy, they do their job no better than a smaller, more efficient engine that produces similar power, the list goes on.
Because low power is boring. However, 4 cylinders are boring too. And when they make 500 HP from having 9 turbochargers, they're not boring. they're confusing. And also, for reason's that I haven't quite figured out yet, no one on this forum seems to realize that not everyone is grandma who leaves her car totally stock and only drives it 6 miles a month. The "6 liter cast iron push rod engine" that you speak of, I assume to be a 6.0 LS, which even if it has 300,000 miles and was pulled from a junkyard, you could beat it with a stick and have a hard time making less than 300 HP. The only excuse for having low power is not knowing how to make more. What are you wanting to get? And don't just say "A V8" because that means nothing, new? old? A big block that makes torque? a small block that makes horsepower? GM? Ford? Chrysler? I've built a few engines, and they've all got their merits, low displacement small blocks work great in derby cars, high revving, high wheel speed, we've built a few small block GM's, and 570 HP is a conservative number to expect from them. While you can take a big block and while 5-600 isnt too hard to reach, you'll have 600 to 700 ft lbs as well. and then you've got diesel. which is a whole very different animal. 12 valve Cummins for example, 359 cubic inches, (5.9) 6 cylinders, 160 HP and 450ft lbs from the factory, and you can get 300 HP and 800 ft lbs without buying a single new part, just adjusting the fueling and the governor. Then if you actually start throwing money at it, 1200 HP and 1900 ft lbs isn't extreme by any stretch, and it'll be just as drivable and reliable as it was when it was stock, if not better. And 25 MPG.
The "6 liter cast iron push rod engine" was just an example and exaggeration with no actual basis, as for what I'd be wanting to get I'd be pretty much stuck with a 96+ vehicle and would prefer something full-sized and comfortable is reliable without much power and is just generally drive-able with poor acceleration. But that said I am not interested in getting more power at all, if anything I might even want to make less because I'd just be learning to drive.
94-01 Dodge trucks, I've had plenty of them, I've never had any issues with one besides a dead alternator. You can find them fairly cheap, a 4wd half ton in ok shape with 180-ish thousand on it shouldn't be much more than $2500, a 2wd would usually be about $1,000 less. And the half tons will have either a 318 (5.2), 360 (5.9), or the V6 (3.9...?) But you don't want the V6. People complain about the automatics in them, but the majority of the issues with them comes from oblivious owners, who never lock it out of overdrive when hauling/pulling stuff.
Small engines are engaging. I put out around 120 ft lbs of torque but around twice the horsepower. Im very happy with my little 4 banger and I totally agree that there is no replacement for displacement is dead. It's called good cylinder head design. I'm building a Honda 1.8 liter b series engine for a friend with deeper pickets than me. Forged 10:1 weisco pistons. Eagle rods. I had the crank knife edged and ballanced. Full ferrea race valves with duel springs and titanium retainers/keepers. Cnc dimple ported head. Full synchro tech carbon synchro kit with hardened hubs. Hi lift short duration turbo cams. Only the crank and bearings will be factory pieces. It's going to have a top mount turbo manifold with a precision 6262 on it. Expected results? 375 ft lbs of torque and over 700 BHP with a 10k rpm Rev limit. The v8 crowd may not be playing games but neither am I. The day that car rolls off the dyno were going hunting for zr1s and 458s. Always built. Never bought. Make it fast no matter what's under the hood.
Had some dents fixed from my car by my dad's friend who owns a repair shop. Then I ordered a new front license plate because the old one is quite dented and scratched. And also had my right front tire remounted because it was leaking quite badly between the tire and the rim. It was a good opportunity to check the underside of my car. (that hole you can see under the front of the car in the 2nd pic isn't rust, it's just the plastic cover that has taken some damage)
That just boggles my mind, What would you say that engine would make N/A? I've thought of building a streetable 360 Chrysler, using mostly stock parts. Stock crank and rods, factory 202 heads ported for 260 CFM, 10.5:1 factory 340 pistons, and a Mopar 284/484 cam, RPM air-gap aluminum intake, 1 3/4" headers. Should be good for 470 HP and right around 500 ft lbs.
The one Im building? Changing the 10:1 pistons for some forged type r pistons would net around 11.5 and with some hi lift cams with meaty primaries and a vtec profile with a lot of overlap we could be looking at big numbers. A stock b series head flows around 240 cfm, so with the dimple job no idea until I see the flow bench results. A good 4 to 1 header with his 2.5 inch exhaust should net around 250whp with a good mid range. Anything more and your only going to make power from 6500 to 10k and not be able to idle good. Your daily setup sounds nice that's a lot of torque. If I was going all motor tho I'd go with a 2.4 liter "big block" k engine. Same amount of work as above into a k24 nets around 330whp with well over 200 ft ibs. One day.
It's a matter of opinion, really. I don't really like small, high strung engines. We have a jetski with one. Always on the edge of detonation. It's just not my thing. "No replacement for displacement is valid". It is much cheaper and easier to get a certain amount of power out of a large engine than it is to get it out of a small engine. Of course as technology improves it gets easier and less expensive, but it is still the case and will be for a while. Even then, it still comes down to how much cost and complexity and such matter to you. I'll stick to my V8s that can be rebuilt for $50 when they wear out after about 300k miles.
Now a large displacement engine with the same technology that can give small engines lots of power, that is what really gets my blood pumping! Talk about a turbocharged 572 with all the fancy performance tricks. I say take the best of both worlds.
Usually if you build a big block with a turbo, it's twin turbos. I've only ever seen one big block Chevy built to that level, It was in a 88-94 Chevy mega truck, and the owner told me it was somewhere in the 1500 HP/1500 TQ range, it could spin all four 5 ft tall tractor tires on dry pavement.
Yeah I'd still say a truck with a twin turbo big block 4wd and tractor tires is more cool than a racing mazda or whatever that was.
