I'd Like To Say Something

I went to a lot of gaming forums when I was younger and even moderated for one before I pulled back from those kinds of forums. I honestly think a lot of it is just the current gaming industry and how its affected the culture. Multiplayer communities get more toxic both as they grow more popular without effectively countering that toxic reputation and as many societies around the world as a whole become more tense, and anti-consumerism and greed keeps seeping in from many mainstream and indie developers alike (Konami, Hello Games just to pick two) and eroding consumer trust. It's a very messy and overwhelming issue that's hard to deal with on a local forum level, and I don't think age beyond the already imposed limit in the rules has much of an effect. Immaturity is often ageless, and trying to blame confrontational behavior and poor etiquette on ageism generally just contributes even more tension and confrontation to a community.

You probably can also attribute some of it to the fact that BeamNG is often unfortunately discovered on places like YouTube and Reddit with no nuance outside of "smashy smashy." Enjoying a game like this more for the crashes isn't some issue of maturity or anything like that, but people with limited tunnel-visioned views of a subject often won't put much thought or effort into discussing other aspects of the community.

Think someone who doesn't consider Nascar that enjoyable due to the style of racecraft an oval often has compared to road courses and someone who especially likes Nascar for the tight drafting-centric racing in traffic talking on a general racing forum, versus the "I just watch it for da crashes" or "da unskilled drivers can only turn left and not corner good hahaha" people. Shallow observations beget shallow discussions.

I would agree that the forum userbase is big enough to maybe benefit from a couple more sub-categories in general discussion, and maybe a new users question thread to contain some of the obnoxious question repeats to a more limited area as well. I also wouldn't go overboard with it, but tightening up the flaming and irrelevancy/spam rules just a bit might help. There should also probably be aggressive rules against hounding mod authors or posting nonconstructive feedback especially, as it's very toxic and arrogant behavior that absolutely does drive people away and achieve the exact opposite of what those people want.

 

That's along the lines of what I was thinking. Unfortunately any time this is brought up, we get "let the mods deal with it".

Hopefully >50 active users seemingly in agreement will at least raise some attention about the issue.

 

you mentioned something about race forums, can you tell me some good ones since I've been looking for a place to learn more about racing and technical parts of cars since the forum I've been using has become useless to me in that regard since its gotten very popular and the good people (from whom I've learned the basics of cars and racing) left because of the toxicity and it (carthrottle if you know it) transforming into car twitter. Another community ruined by becoming popular

 

I could not agree more, this is not the community we should have and accept, let's try to clean it up, and, to put in my part, I'll spam less

 

You can't talk about self improvement when you use words like "underageb&" and "normalfags" not to mention calling people "cancer". That kind of language/behaviour should be kept at bay, otherwise you'll just make yourself look like a rude person. Keep the toxic memes inside /b/ basically.

I've been lurking the forums since before the game's release, and you used to be able to read all the new posts for that day in about 30 minutes, but there are more people now that the game has been released, covered by several famous youtubers and featured in several websites, which is fantastic. What's not so great is the fact that some people are just out there to make rude remarks and spout memes left and right.

 

i agree back then it was tons better. Their was no thread bumps and new players that think they know everything about the game.

 

Yeah and some config packs have little to no effort and even use other config mods for their configs. There should really be some restrictions for using someone else's mods like in a scenario you can use config mods while depending on the configurations.

 

This is a bit much. When I come on here to talk shit it's literally all in good fun. Nascar sucks. Muscle cars are crap. If you don't drive a swapped Honda you should be hanged. Don't you guys talk crap with your real friends? I do, and I consider you all to be my Internet friends.

 

Most BNG community problems are related to the way BNG became famous: YouTube, the first approach of future buyers is one random crash compilation video, then users gets excited about the physics and buy that 20$ game that they couldn't find without YouTube, this causes lots of casual, often young, people to post crap on the forums. I might be wrong, but i reckon that YT may have contributed to this

 

That's all in good fun, sure. If you look around the forums however, namely the suggestions/wip areas, you'll see a lot of stuff that you'd expect to see on a Roblox forum.

 

People like jamesgemma500 also has spammed the community with his/her outward stupidity and also he/she is annoying as hell.

 

@Randomgamer3210
I don't actually frequent car forums either, and not sure you'll find any one comprehensive car forum that doesn't have its own issues. I mostly stumble upon good resources through Google searches. I've seen a lot of knowledgeable discussion on forums focused on a single car model, some subreddits, and a number of very good resources on YouTube. EricTheCarGuy is a mechanic who makes very good comprehensive overviews on all the mechanics of automobiles. Start here, check out the engines overview he posts in the description and you'll have a pretty comprehensive place to start.


The Clean Driving and Racing thread actually did turn out pretty well even if the asking for advice part kind of died down completely after a few pages. I've looked at all of the resources in the first post just about and even contributed one of the links. http://www.beamng.com/threads/clean-driving-and-racing.27892/

 

I understand your frustrations completely. Just try to take these 2 things into account. One, most people aren't very smart at all. This is something society needs to confront but that's another issue.
Two, I always loved cars, but until I had the money to buy and work on them I didn't know crap about them compared to now, but I didn't argue or debate about them any less than I do now regardless. I hope everyone just finds a way to maintain. Like it or not this forum really isn't that bad if you can ignore some things.

 

As someone who is not knowlageable about cars I can confirm that I argue and debate about them anyways and I approve of your generalization.

 

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of course you do. It's a great way to pass the time and if your humble a great way to learn something. Also a great way to be wrong and only be further entrenched in your false knowledge.

 

I vote that the forum gets some type of "Early Verification", like new members have to have their posts reviewed before they get put up, and after a certain amount of posts, they don't need to be reviewed anymore.

It would take a lot more moderators for this, but I know it'll help the forums a lot.

 

Maybe get a couple of volunteer moderators, like some other games. People over 20 playing the game can come online and different times and moderate.

 

thanks for the help, appreciate it even though I knew about ericthecarguy

 

I don't like this idea, people might get discouraged from posting. Plus, some things should be said with urgency, and having mods review posts might mess with the timing on some threads.

 

i like this idea but I've been on the forums since 2013 and haven't thought of creating a account till this year maybe people like me could get a verification or something so we don't have to have our posts monitored by moderators all the time. But i totally agree with that idea as none of the younger members on this site can bump or spam or troll other peoples threads leading this to be a much more controlled environment for people to enjoy themselves and share mods with other people without being worried that someone will insult their mod.

such as :

http://www.beamng.com/threads/bootlegger-burnside-special.30140/ 3rd post