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How to convert old vehicle mods to work with 0.5.6?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by G-Farce, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. G-Farce

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    I know and agree with what you are saying, but SixSeven only made two mods, very simple, easy to do ones at that. No creativity. He has 6,656 messages, because I see him everywhere, trolling along & giving advice where he knows nothing. I detest misdirection and manipulation, he is simply the worst kind of manipulator. The unrelenting.


    Anyways..yes mods always get broken, in different ways. Are there anything specifically you remember about changing the filestructure? I'm kind of at a loss, only made a few scenarios. From what I can tell I need inside the zip to have a vehicle folder and the name of the car in next folder, corresponding to the name of the .dae?
     
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  3. CreasingCurve

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    @SixSixSevenSeven I have seen multiple occasions where you have started an insult and refuse to believe that you were the one who started it. You also refuse to back down when somebody may or may not have insulted you just like a little child. As it seems you are a very senior forum member, i and many others would also believe that you should act more mature and stop critisizing and condescending when they have done something wrong or will not take the advice you have given them.
     
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  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    2 released on repo is not the same as 2 mods made, not at all, particularly when I released some before the repo and am credited on others, and have messed around with unreleased stuff. Where did I misdirect, I pointed you in the right place, and got insulted for it.

    But simple:
    modname.zip/vehicles/vehiclename/<files>
    .dae doesnt have to be named the same as the vehicle, though its highly advisable.
    Look at the base content in steam/steamapps/beamng/content/vehicles. The vehicles in there use the same structure.
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    You know what I am done with this. I point someone where they need to go and it turns into a hate campaign against me. Jeez. Maybe I will edit out every bit of advice I have ever given, remove every post I have ever made which has aided people enough to leave me in the credits lists of several mods.
     
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  5. G-Farce

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    Yes I thought looking at the official content would give hints, wasn't sure if it was that simple.
     
  6. SixSixSevenSeven

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    See if you'd have asked if it was that simple, rather than insulting someone for telling you to look at the wiki which documents exactly that you'd have had an answer much sooner.
     
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  7. G-Farce

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    Those two are quite contradictory statements coming from the same person.
     
  8. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Nope they are not. You asked if repacking is that simple. Repacking is that simple. Updating a mod is not.

    Repacking isnt the whole story, unless the mod is recent enough that it still works as is, but alot arent. But then you didnt specify. I mentioned other issues already, feel free to ignore them.

     
  9. G-Farce

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    Yes there is a difference between repacking and updating. I didn't acknowledge the difference. Next time maybe I'll know I'll be asking about "repacking" more than "converting" old mods
     
  10. CreasingCurve

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    Dont take my post the wrong way. I know and respect the fact that you are a knowledgeable and helpful person but there can be times just like everybody else (me included) when this happens
     
  11. torsion

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    Meh. If what you said wasn't true before it certainly became true with SixSixSevenSeven's response to your post! The truth is that lots of us struggle with the urge to be abrasive and confrontational. It pays to be self aware about that sort of thing. FWIW I do my best to be civil and re-explain myself using different words, phrases, and ideas where possible as opposed to repeating similar statements. I expect others to do their best as well.

    Certainly G-Farce was also in the wrong - starting with a fundamental misunderstanding/oversimplification and graduating to insults etc.

    [Somewhat] back on topic... G-Farce, you still haven't posted any of the specifics I mentioned. There is not, and will not be, a set of "general mod update guidelines" for that old stuff - especially old stuff from different years! There are fairly current packaging guidelines though. If you get the feeling that everyone is down on your idea and no-one wants to help, that's probably accurate/true. You won't post specifics (What mod, what problems, etc. "It doesn't work" is not a specific.) You have been unable to find simple things like the sticky with packaging guidelines in the content creation forum (Content creation is exactly what updating a mod is, as you were told!). On top of those things I suspect that everyone else assumes the same thing that I do: that the mod you want to resurrect may well have been a poor one to start with. Of course resulting to name calling after all that isn't good either.

    FWIW you also cannot simultaneously agree with what I'm saying and then say mean things about SixSixSevenSeven, an individual who I've just been telling you is deserving of your respect.

    You can still manage success, but that trick will certainly require a changing of ways! Be forthcoming with information. Be accepting of advice. Certainly restrain your negative comments to those which are at least mildly constructive. Etc...
     
  12. G-Farce

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    That's because I've yet to add the specific car I want to get help with. I will do so and let you know here once I figure it out. Might be a few days depending on life.

    In all fairness, I found SixSeven to be really annoying here and not adding to the discussion, but rather detracting from it and pointing out things that didn't help, playing to his knowledge of the modding community & dicking about the issue for his own personal gain & satisfaction. He did play a part in drawing me in and began the derailing of the thread to the point where he became hostile, edgy and very rude. He got better, becoming helpful once it was pointed out however & so did I. I guess I went overboard because of the amount of times I've seen him be rude & very much not helpful to other people as well, confirming CreasingCurve's [post] in it's totality and truths.

    I must have missed that thread because last I checked that wasn't the thread for updating to newer mods. But instead that thread was actually just the necessary file formats to make new mods with. I am completely shocked how that thread has almost the info I am looking for. But I'd like to highlight the thread last comment is over 5 months old, if I post there, people will complain to no end "leave dead threads alone" "do away leave the thread you idiot!" "don't post in old threads" "please never post in a dead thread again", ridiculous comments I still don't know the meaning!!! when I all I am doing is looking for help and support!!! so it's better that I started this thread!! ARRRGGHGHHHH!! I just want to screammm! It's so tiring.

    Anyway! Hope I didn't derailthe thread again! Now do you want me to uploaded the mod here, in this thread? I'll attempt to package it for the new format first, and then upload? yes?
     
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    [my emphasis and snips added] Frankly what's tiring is that we've got a 30+ post thread here about something you don't even know is broken!! Nobody expects you to spend a whole weekend on it, but please make a quick best effort. Maybe you didn't need to post this thread at all, maybe your own skills, knowledge, and observations would have allowed you to get the mod working.

    If you can't get it running I'm not just asking you to repack and upload. I'm asking you to link to the source, post any history information you may have about the mod, upload your repack, etc. ALL THE INFO - that's what the people helping you usually need. :)
    Any more of this and I'm out. None of us want to hear your self justifications. We can read the thread for ourselves and form our own opinions of everyone's behavior thank you. (Also I do see that you are miss-spelling SixSixSevenSeven's name - you may as well type out the extra letters. It is not SixSeven...)
    One of the things I was trying to recommend in my last post was humility. This does not sound like humility. You need to calm down, take a deep breath, eat some humble pie... and try to be less rude. Once again, you are wrong. Clearly you've either resurrected a thread and gotten in trouble for it or seen someone else do it. You can't resurrect that thread - it's a sticky. Sticky threads are always at the top - a moderator usually promotes them to sticky because they have lasting relevance. And don't start picking a fight with ME about how updating a mod and making a mod are "converting a mod is not the same as making a mod from scratch" because we've already been over that and you lost that fight - it is 'like' making a mod from scratch. Hopefully the shock of finding useful info in a 'mod creation' related thread will help you understand that. :-/
     
  15. G-Farce

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    You clearly do not understand my frustration one bit. I was explaining my case, since you inquired about it. Likewise taking "snips" is completely taking everything out of context and is not helpful at all.

    *Sigh* You have misunderstood me I have more than one mod that isn't working, but I've yet to decide which one needs to be worked on.
    Like I said before I'll upload it when I have decided.
    You also missed my question, should I upload here?

    Honestly buddy I feel you are dragging this one, so if you have no intentions of helping but rather bickering round the issue and questioning me like we're doing some sort of interview for a press conference, you and anyone else can exit this thread right now. I want none of it.
     
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