I don't see anything here saying they have to be always on, unless it's buried in one of the linked documents. In any case, if it's true, that makes me very, very, very angry. STOP TRYING TO SAVE US FROM OURSELVES!
I almost fell out of my chair made of a seat from a Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead when I read this. #ROFL I've been in a Jaguar XFR before, trust me, when ABS and TC are off, you know it. I've been in a Challenger Hellcat, same thing. Have you not seen videos of cars like Hellcats (2014 and after, they weren't made until '14) and Mustangs (2012 and after) doing burnouts? They're not limited to 20mph and can do big, smoky, epic burnouts.
I'm not too sure how true it always being on is in all honesty, and it wasn't from a very reliable source(comments section on a youtube video...), but I do know that if you do find a way to actually disable ESC and it was found in an inspection then the car wouldn't be road legal. The link I posted before also seems to imply that it has to have it always on as it doesn't explicitly state whether or not companies are allowed to put ways of disabling it or not, I'm not saying that there isn't a difference when it's on or supposedly off but I think when it's "off" it's just a bit less restricting on most cars.
It has to be on at time of ignition is all. You can have an off switch though it is common for cars to simply reduce the level of involvement for the system rather than disable entirely, including on the hellcat where it is still on even though there are clouds of smoke from your tires
I think Beam.NG should have some sort of really boxy-looking, ex-military offroad SUV, like a Merc G-Wagen or an old Land Rover or something. Personally, I think it should be a Gavril that takes extremely heavy influence from the Jeep Wrangler and the HMMWV, but mainly the YJ and TJ. The engines and transmissions will likely be carried over from the D- and H-Series, with custom 2WD and 4WD front axles made specifically for it. The Land Rover Defender would also be a great car to use as reference or inspiration for different cabs/bodies it could be configured with. What would it be called, though?
Hummer H1-inspired vehicles (Gavril Whistler?) would be awesome so we could crush PT Cruisers (Gavril TP Brokendownonthesideoftheroaders?): Crushing starts at 5:31 - there is a review of the highly magnificent (lol) Toilet Paper Cruiser and then there is the crushing action.
That makes my blood boil. I wonder if it would be possible to sue them for setting up the car to lie to you like that? Also, that rule itself makes me mad... it should be legal to have a switch instead of a button, so you can have it default to off. Heck, I think it should still be legal to build a car without any form of electronic assists, not traction control, not stability control, not even ABS.
subaru BRZ. Has the fucking konami code to truly disable all assists (except ABS I think which is always on, though there is a way to bypass that). But then that car will still break the tyres loose and pull a neat little drift using the regular TCS/ESC off switches.
I know with some cars you can pull a fuse to kill the ABS... does that work with other assists as well?
If my car lied to me like that, I'd sue the hell out of the manufacturer, just like when (this is true) a group of Nissan GT-R owners sued Nissan when their gearboxes went to crap after using launch control. If a car has launch control, okay, design the gearbox so it doesn't go bad when launch control is used! And if my car says traction control, anti-lock brakes, and stability control are off, they better actually be off! Ah, good ol' Konami code. I would guess you could pull the ABS fuse out and that would disable it? "Pedals all the way forward, seat all the way back, and pull the fuse out!" Anyone? It's from when Top Gear UK went to the US in the LFA, Vanquish, and Viper in Series 21 (edit: it's actually Series 19). Clarkson and May wanted to make Hammond lose the race to the Mexican border, so Hammond would have to reconnect the fuse and take the fruit out of the exhausts. I wonder what the code would be? Gas, gas, brake, brake, e-brake on, e-brake off, gas, brake, gas, brake, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, then back to neutral? BRZ is a nice car, despite all the "it only has 200 horsepower noobs, it not sport car" comments. It's not the fact that it only has 200 (200 is IMO the right amount for a car like a BRZ) but rather the comment surrounding it. Apparently people must think the BRZ/FR-S/86 is supposed to be a Tesla Model S P90D_ with the Ludicrous upgrade (762 HP) or something like that.
